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08-21-2013 , 04:16 PM
Pretty good game at the MGM. I won the last two hands, UTG+1 and UTG with AKs and AA. Opened both and cbet vs. Villian who folded both flops. He's like 50ish Canadian and has been playing sort of fishy. Doesn't bet much, when he does it's like 1/8 pot bets with bottom pair, ect. Villain and I are roughly 100bbs deep to start the hand.

3 limps, I make it $15 with AK in the BB. Loose older guy calls in MP, and Villian calls in the SB.

Flop ($45ish): A74
Villain checks, I cbet $25. Older guy takes some time, asks how much I have, then folds. Villain min-raises to $50.

I'm not folding, obviously. But I don't know whether to raise for value or just flat. He hasn't raised anyone who's bet in the 2 hours we've been playing, but he also has been playing pretty weird.

Hero?
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08-21-2013 , 04:24 PM
Id either (depending on villian type)

1. Flat and re-evaluate turn.

2. re-raise
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08-21-2013 , 07:30 PM
Your flop bet is a little weak, I'd go a little higher. $35-$40. Villains min raise on such a dry board polarizes his range somewhat. There are few draws he could be holding, 56 and that's about it. So either he flopped a monster, 44, 77, A4, A7, or he's got you on a big pair with a scary Ace on the flop. I don't see him raising us with many Ax's... I'd expect a call if that was the case.

You say he bets weird, which unfortunately doesn't tell us much. I'm leaning toward flatting myself. I think that too often he is trying to push you off in his mind a JJ/QQ/KK type hand. If he jams turn, I'd probably fold.

Alternatively, you could re-min-raise him, if he ships fold. Otherwise check back for control and pray for a K on the river.
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08-21-2013 , 07:38 PM
flat

reraising is worse than folding
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08-21-2013 , 07:49 PM
flat is much better than a reraise unless you think this guy is dying to get in 100 bb with AQ-AT.
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08-21-2013 , 08:05 PM
flat flop. c/r turn. if he checks back the turn make sure you lead the river.
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08-21-2013 , 08:07 PM
Villain hasn't raised anyone in 2 hours.
What do you guys think he has?
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08-21-2013 , 08:12 PM
c/evaluate turn is much better than c/r. I'm not really dying to play for stacks here
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08-21-2013 , 08:14 PM
what are you guys putting V on when he min raises? i think we are either WA/WB so if we think we are ahead why are we not trying to get more money in the pot?

if we range him for 2pair, sets, and weaker aces we are flipping but i don't see him raising us here with a weaker ace. i almost feel like this is a fold. def not raising here.

also i'm raising to 20-25 pre
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08-21-2013 , 08:14 PM
well op said he won the last two hands vs villain w/o showdown

i think peeling the minraise/evaluating turn is ok vs someone potentially taking a stand. usually it's a fold ott to any sizable bet tho
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08-22-2013 , 07:07 AM
3betting is really thin here. Flat and use position on the later streets.
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08-22-2013 , 07:38 AM
Why are you not folding?
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08-22-2013 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by The Shrog
I won the last two hands, UTG+1 and UTG with AKs and AA.

Doesn't bet much, when he does it's like 1/8 pot bets with bottom pair, ect. Villain and I are roughly 100bbs deep to start the hand.
He hasn't raised anyone who's bet in the 2 hours we've been playing, but he also has been playing pretty weird.
These are the two most important parts of the hand description that need to be focused on.
We have a villain who has some pretty specific tendencies and now he's deviating from them. So we need to ask our self why is he deviating? What hand does he have that he does this with? Does he have A9 here? I'm sure he's has TPMK some other time and did he check raise with those?

But also, we've been very active the last 3 hands and people hate that. I think this is a simple call and evaluate the turn. If we hadn't just won the last two hands though this would like be a fold.
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08-22-2013 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyBalls
what are you guys putting V on when he min raises? i think we are either WA/WB so if we think we are ahead why are we not trying to get more money in the pot?

if we range him for 2pair, sets, and weaker aces we are flipping but i don't see him raising us here with a weaker ace. i almost feel like this is a fold. def not raising here.

also i'm raising to 20-25 pre
If we are WA why do you want to take lines that allow villain to fold since we know he's never folding if we are WB?
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