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01-09-2014 , 04:39 PM

ieddy

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Hero has 300 behind
Villain has about 240

Hero is dealt OTB with A

limped/folded around

Hero raises to 15$
Villain calls(BB) everyone else folds

Flop comes A

Hero checks Villain bets 15
Hero re-raises to 30
Villain re-raises all in

Hero????

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01-09-2014 , 04:48 PM

RAHZero

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Don't check the flop. You make money here by taking a bet/bet/bet line and value-towning worse Aces and stacking weaker flushes when you hit. Checking this flop is horrendous.

After you check flop, I don't mind small sizing, but I'd still make it bigger than a min-raise. $40-$50 works here.

As played, snap call. You have good equity against anything (crushing worse As and FDs / combo draws, flipping vs. 2p hands, and drawing live vs. sets).

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01-09-2014 , 04:51 PM

wj94

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Your c/r is way too small, make it $55. Snap calling the shove.

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01-09-2014 , 04:57 PM

Gilmour

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Originally Posted by RAHZero

Agree on everything you say.

It gets me turned on to think about the scenario where villain reraises the flop with a smaller flushdraw thinking he has good equity against your percieved AQ or AK, when he in reality is almost drawing dead

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01-09-2014 , 05:00 PM

Redskins 47

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Is this for real? Call. Quickly.

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01-09-2014 , 05:03 PM

Ahutz

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As the above posters suggested checking the flop is a poor decision in my opinion too. What types of hand would you check this flop with that aren't strong? How often would you check and raise those hands? There probably aren't many. However, you likely continuation bet this board a lot when you're trying to represent the ace or when you flopped various draws. What I'm getting at is, if betting the flop is your default when you have not a very strong hand, why are you mixing it up and checking when you have a strong hand? I think if you're dead-set on getting funky, the street to check is the turn after you've continuation bet the flop.

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01-09-2014 , 05:04 PM

Barbra Streisand

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**** you

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01-09-2014 , 05:10 PM

TopGun in VA

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I'm confused...if you're on the button and Villain is in the big blind, how are you able to check-raise the flop?

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01-09-2014 , 05:14 PM

Dubey

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In a vacuum, I would do a dance, fist pump, then call. However in game, I would have to forego the dance section of my calling routine on account of the raging boner that I would get when that flop came out.

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01-09-2014 , 05:16 PM

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Gilmour

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Originally Posted by Dubey

If got shoved on here my chips would be in the middle in quarter of a second, true Hellmuthstyle

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01-09-2014 , 05:57 PM

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Snowball2

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Originally Posted by TopGun in VA

I'm confused...if you're on the button and Villain is in the big blind, how are you able to check-raise the flop?

Same question.

Well as played I call obv. I wouldnt dance-call only because ive been in a similar situation with aks tp nfd and they 3bet me all in with a set. Point is, I learned that we should take some time to think about our Vs even as straight forward as the hand may seem. Any info you can provide on the V here?

Furthermore as others have said, lead out otf. If he checks back here then you lost a street of value.

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01-09-2014 , 10:18 PM

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ieddy

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 14

Turn and river came J no spade and 2 no spade. He turned over two pair aces and sixes

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01-09-2014 , 10:29 PM

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bulls_horn

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Originally Posted by ieddy

Turn and river came J no spade and 2 no spade. He turned over two pair aces and sixes

Thus ends debate/discussion. No need to post results here.

You've gotta know you're behind here with the monster over-bet, but with the NFD you've got outs.

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01-09-2014 , 10:58 PM

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ieddy

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Thanks I just wanted to make sure I made the right call, still a little new to the live poker scene and it was a little hard to make the make the call but in the end I knew it would be really hard to put that hand down

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01-09-2014 , 11:04 PM

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Davino

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snap call

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01-10-2014 , 12:30 AM

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iraisetoomuch

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Originally Posted by ieddy

Turn and river came J no spade and 2 no spade. He turned over two pair aces and sixes

You have 12 outs, plus 1-2% from backdoor XX higher than his 6. You are winning. By a decent amount. Be happy. Call.

Ok, so I had to check the equity, and we are only 47% to win. But its still a git it in.

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