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1-2 AK. Flop an A. Play it fast or slooooow? 1-2 AK. Flop an A. Play it fast or slooooow?

03-12-2014 , 11:23 PM
Villain 220. Hard to describe this style. Id call it loose-stubborn. Lost a big pot recently. When he likes his hand he either makes or calls full pot size bets.

Hero 600. Prolly viewed as TAG. Though my image prolly doesn't matter against this villain as he either loves or hates his hand.

Folded around to
Villain in MP makes it 15
Hero calls in SB with AK


I usually raise here. I figure Im ahead BUT want to let him catch up abit and fall in love like Ive seen before.

Flop(32)

A 7 J

Hero checks
V bets 20
Hero???


I anticipate most will say Check/Call all 3 streets. Not going to lie I raised to 50. For afew reasons first the very thought of the turn going check check then bet fold or check check on the river made me sad inside. So my thought is raise for value and raise to protect/charge as the board is wetish. Now as I write this thinking about the V call flop lead any turn is prolly best.


Thoughts?
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03-12-2014 , 11:38 PM
3-bet pre with a stubborn V and OOP. He's not folding a decent ace.

AP to flop, if he makes or call PSBs, make a PSB.

AP, c/r is fine as it reps FD to a lot of these guys and it makes it easy to get AI with less than a PSB each on turn and river.
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03-13-2014 , 06:59 AM
Based on your description of the villain not 3-betting pre is horrible. Almost regardless of villain not 3-betting pre is pretty bad. What's his raising range? What hands are you letting him catch up to you with? Most hands these guys are going to be raising with either have aces or kings in them, or are big PP's that don't need any help. This is the exact flop you're looking for when you 3-bet because it nails his AQ/AT hands that given the description he will never fold, and the bloated pot will make it much harder for him to fold KK/QQ, and you can milk his stack over 3-streets.

As played I think either a small c/r or a call and turn donk is fine. I personally like the call and donk line because the board is not super-wet, there's still room to play for stacks, and you can still find a fold if he decides to raise the turn.
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03-13-2014 , 11:25 AM
Making it 70-85 and shoving any turn given your read on him.
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03-13-2014 , 12:17 PM
Quote:
I usually raise here. I figure Im ahead BUT want to let him catch up abit and fall in love like Ive seen before.
This would make a lot more sense with AA/KK as AK will flop a pair or better only about 30% of the time, and the chance that you both flop a pair and have him dominated is quite small.
Only in the very specific case that Villain is a big calling station, you could plan to wait to flop a pair and then value town him with his weak pair.

You describe Villain as a "loose-stubborn" type, so it's a very simple spot here. Villain here is not a very good player so there is no need at all to overthink and set up sophisticated traps.
Value, value and value. Checkraise the flop and shove the T. Simple as that.

His range is full of dominated aces and he will probably call all his stack off with these or with his draws (and by just calling pre you under-represented your hand which will give him one more good reason to call his stack with his AT or so).
If he's lucky enough to have you beat or to catch one of his outs, more power to him, you'll get his stack later.

Last edited by Zarathoustra; 03-13-2014 at 12:28 PM.
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03-13-2014 , 01:54 PM
I'm usually going to 3-bet it from the SB.

I kind of like a check/raise, but making it 50 is accomplishing neither of your objectives. It's not getting enough value, and it's not protecting your hand. You're laying him better than 3:1 to call in position with a draw.

Check/raise to at least 70, IMO, and probably get it in if he wants to.
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