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1/2 AK in the BB, cold 4bet/call/fold? 1/2 AK in the BB, cold 4bet/call/fold?

01-03-2014 , 05:18 PM
What is V2 raising with? When v3, Asian lady, three bets, what do you expect to see here? I would say QQ+, probably AA or KK, maybe AK. It is certainly okay to fold in this spot. If I had AK suited, perhaps I 4bet. You are in a crappy spot being OOP, facing a raise and a reraise. At best you're dominating AQ, not likely though. You're behind here most of time. Look for a better spot.

Also, who says her sizing is atrocious if she is getting people to fold?
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01-03-2014 , 05:27 PM
never folding to this villains 3bet - now if V were OMC then that's a different story. I 4bet/GII against any Asian here...
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01-03-2014 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by randomcards
Hmmm, I like the twist....

Sometimes, just sometimes when someone makes a dumb bet size at me in this spot I make a really dumb bet size back, and I think this is one of those random times.

I actually like Mr_Doomed's idea of a min-4 bet (normally atrocious). I this spot it looks so bad/confusing that I think V1/2 have to be monsters to call (knowing V3 could easily shove) and gets you a significant piece of info for a pretty cheap price (depending on if she shoves or just calls). If she very big 5 bets I fold, if she calls I actually think I am in decent shape or at least flipping against QQ and lower.

As played I am pretty close to flipping a coin between shoving. It's a sweet squeeze spot for V2, and I can see him doing it with a lot more hands that we are flipping against/beating than AA/KK. Shoving is I think is a solid play as the hand played out (but not to V3's original 3 bet).

Cool pre flop action.
I'm glad someone actually acknowledged my idea whether it was agreeing or giving me a reason it's terrible. Since its such a small 3 bet it hardly plays like a 4bet pot. Not to mention we take he initiative and have a few ways of winning a pot. Also if we are. 5 bet we still get away relatively cheap. Also still think its between a 4 bet or a fold not a call.

Last edited by Mr_Doomed; 01-03-2014 at 05:54 PM.
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01-03-2014 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
Flat.

Flop nut straight against top set. Stick it in.

Win maneys.
nice input bud
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01-03-2014 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinquefoil
Hero tanks for ten seconds and hates all his options. I hate 4b/folding, I hate 4b/calling a shove, I hate flatting OOP, and folding just seems super-weak.

Hero calls $22.
V1 calls $22.
V2 raises to $70.
V3 shakes her head, looks at her cards again, shakes her head exasperatedly, glances at V2, and crying-folds.
Hero?
Ok well the party is over, time to fold. V2 is described as ABC player. There is nothing ABC about 4 betting over a 3 bet and two calls with out KK+.
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01-05-2014 , 11:23 AM
Yeah, pretty sure I should fold at this point. But I saw all that dead money in the pot and thought, "I'm getting almost 3:1 on a call, and even if he has KK I'm in decent shape, I'll call."
Anyway, it was a weird, confusing bit of preflop action for me. Turns out V2 had AA (obviously), and V3 folded QQ.
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01-05-2014 , 11:26 AM
I've been running bad with ak add well, a lot of times I end up having into less than 100bb stacks and keep running into aa or kk. Pretty annoying. 3b are so rare in llsnl. Treat them with respect.
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