I appreciate the time to make this response. I am on my phone so I won't be writing a long response.

Shouldn't the goal be to make the post profitable decision at every point? I understand that limping is easier to do but I don't understand your reasoning of why it is more profitable.

Limp lose small or win small. Win big in a cooler which a cooler makes money either way

Raise we win small, lose small, win big, lose big , etc but we have iniative and will win without the best time as well.

Your method is playing bingo IMO and not ranges

So you're posting "standard" responses to advertise your coaching sessions?

Is that even allowed?

Ps. I am not asking you to explain it to just me; I am asking because they're valid questions when reading your response.

Im going to differ from the group and raise the turn. Everyone seems to be ignoring the TWO straight draws that exist out there, plus the turn even brought a FD. She called in the BB, so her range is pretty large. Why is everyone all of a sudden a big fan of giving free cards? Why are we discounting 9T, 56, 89, possibly suited? We didnt exactly flop the nuts here, we have TPTK with a draw heavy board, im raising the $35 to around $100.

You're absolutely right.

Ed Miller has a great article relating to why we shouldn't play as ANL suggested:

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news...a-slot-machine

Here's an excerpt:

In ANL's defense, I think his response was attempting to keep it simple which I understand. OP may not be comfortable playing a pot OOP if he raises and the flop is 962r or JT8ss and he bets and gets raised. He may end up making mistakes and losing a bigger pot than expected.

However, like I said above, the only way you get better is to try new strategies and figure out what works. IMO (and obviously in the opinion of many others ITT) limping here is just bad, and advising someone to do so under the guise that it's easier is not good advice. Sometimes.... Poker is hard (shocker)!! But it will never get any easier and you'll never advance if you just keep doing things to minimize your losses as opposed to maximizing your gains.

And it's OK. However, there needs to be more explanation than just "let's play small pot OOP because we are not as good."

We should look for concrete reasons why we are choosing to limp instead of raise, what kind of mistakes would we make if we raise instead of limp, and what are the impacts of these mistakes in term of EV.

When you start thinking in absolute dollar amount and judge our lines by result, we're opening doors that will lead to incorrect thinking that are based off incorrect assumptions.

+1. We should be asking questions and trying to figure out how to play better and why certain lines are more profitable, not easier or harder.

Easier and harder are relative terms that simply have little value in these discussions.

My opinion this is far too broad and again will lead the average OP most likely down a troubling path.

Raise UTG folds out tons of hands I want in the pot. Limping keeps them in.
AJs is not some great hand and it seems many are acting as if it is.

Bingo? Depending on the skill level of the OP, it could be bingo either way. I can limp this hand and play postflop far better than the average 1-2 player limping the hand. I expect the average player (talking on a forum such as this) to be able to play a small limped pot easily much better than a swollen multiway from UTG with this hand.

And again, giving only one option to OP in the final analysis (raising utg) is many times throwing him under the bus if he finds it hard to play a marginal hand from UTG in a big pot. Nobody is taking that into consideration here.

As usual, many are stuck with their one line. And defending it to the death. Im not. I do in fact say there are choices to make, and depending on comfort level, skill level, a different line may be best. My first reply was basic and should serve a generic OP well, which is what the case was until more info on hero comes in.

Can you please outline this troubling path?

Why isn't it a great hand and what do you consider great hand(s) UTG? If you are not going to explain why, can you at least provide some examples?

You said that you can't provide specific explanations because there aren't enough information, and yet:

You're making assumptions that the table will limp MW.

You're making assumptions that there will be a lot of callers.

And you still haven't explained why it's easier to play AJs by limping than by raising.

I am! That's why I kept on asking you to explain why it is throwing him under the bus and how AJs is a marginal hand.

Do you know that AJs is a top 5% hand as in top 60 combos of 1326 combos of hands available?

I am certainly not, hence I am asking you to explain why you think limping is better than raising. How can we make comparisons if we don't list out different variables of each line?

I had bunch of questions to your first reply as well, please respond to them.

Im curious as to how you would then play ATs A9s from UTG.

ANL, are my questions not making sense?

How can we say one line is better than another if we do not lay out all the variables and compare them?

Please help us out by responding to them.

Richard, I have already clearly defined my opinion on this topic above. And once again I will tell you that if you want a precise dissertation on every tiny point to this hand, I will gladly do it within skype coaching sessions for you but not here.

I do not see an attempt at solving the OP yourself. Where is your reply to the OP? This is not a debate between you and I.

If you want to be constructive in this thread, please offer your own solution to the OPs issue and since you expect others to include proof/data/stats to support their answers, please include yours as well.

You should spend more time offering your own solutions than attempting to pick apart mine.

Is it allowed for a poster to be advertising for coaching in this forum?

Just call. Your good here a lot .

If you look at the previous post, Richard is the one who brought up the coaching (in a slanderous way I might add). My post above was a repeat of what i said earlier since he tends to troll my replies, while offering none of his own.

Are you allowed to advertise in this forum in the direct manner as you're doing?

In other words, you are intentionally posting very vague responses without any in-depth breakdowns that lead to many questions so people will subscribe to your $120+/hr Skype sessions?

Sir, this isn't a debate, because debate would require you to respond to some of my questions or you asking me questions.

I read your response that is simply too vague to have much meaning. You are telling us that AJs, a top 5% hand, is too weak to raise from UTG because it would lead to "trouble path."

I asked you to explain how a top 5% hand is marginal and what is this trouble path.

I am not confident of my ability to answer the same questions that popped in my mind, but I respect you as a poster, hence I think you have the capacity to answer these questions.

I did not realize that I have to pay $120/hr just to get you to breakdown your generic response.

I have not brought up anything relating to your coaching in this thread, but you have, three times now.

Please stay on topic, and without slandering me.

Personally I find that these people trying to attack every single post he makes is adding absolutely zero value to the forum/this thread. It's annoying.

I stopped after counting RP's FIFTEEN questions he's asked of ANL. Ridiculous.

Sorry sir, I did not realize that I was not helping the readers by asking questions that may add to these discussions.

What do you recommend that I do if I have questions relating to ANL's responses? Is this not the right place to pose them?

Can you also explain why you think my questions are attacks? Are they not legitimate questions relating to his posts? Isn't a valuable discussion where we could go back and forth in asking questions and providing answers?

I am also aware that he's a coach, so if I don't understand his comments relating to the hand, shouldn't I be asking him to elaborate?

Edit: I do apologize for the tones of my questions. Please note that this is my standard posting way, to give attention to every detail of someone's response. I feel that by addressing every sentence, I have thoroughly analyzed someone's response.

I'm really confused

TTHRIC