First post in this section so forgive me if this isn't as detailed as it should be.

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Hero (BB, ~$700): Late 20's, Black, very quiet. Viewed as tight and thus often gets respect when he raises/Cbets.

Villain (CO, ~400): Mid 20's, white guy. Mostly looking to mix it up with the table maniac who frequently raises to $100 or more pre.

The Hand:

UTG straddles for $4. 3 callers to Hero in BB, looks down at AA, raises to $19 total. Straddle calls, as does everyone else.

Flop ($90) 554dd. Hero leads out for $60, folds to V2 who calls and is all-in for that amount. V1 makes it $210 total and is left with $150 behind. Hero?

I didn't put him on a random 5 here. Thought maybe he was trying to be tricky limping with KK, QQ or AKdd. A2dd/A3dd for nut flush, gutshot combos? 44 is also well within his range but I'm not certain he shows up with it enough to warrant folding. Being OOP I don't think I can ever just call here. I don't like to stack off with just one pair but I also have a tough time folding in this huge pot.

$19 probably isn't enough at 1/2 from the BB. People who straddle tend to call very wide, and once they do your going to set off a chain. I'm going $25-$35 in this situation at most 1/2 games, sometimes more. If the straddle is very aggressive about raising limped pots I would limp in occasionally also.

As played, what positions are the main villain and V2 in? What sort of range is V2 on? Is the main villain paying any attention to V2's range? Mostly though, given villain's stack I'm not folding aces, I would just put him in on the flop. I would expect enough draws and enough smaller over pairs that folding AA is wrong.

Welcome to the forum, op.

More pre, please. At least $25. There's $24 in there by the time you call, so $15 more is too little.

I don't c-bet this flop this many ways, but if I do, I fold to this action. He has 4 combos of combo draws in his range, and 4 combos of 56s/44. Unless he can be spazzing with less than a combo draw, this is a clear fold, imo.

You think he's more likely to be limp calling with QQ or KK than 5x...why exactly? Because this range is favorable to you?

Not a good thought process

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haha, wut.


Like Quad said, bomb more pre.

As played, I am gii and expecting to lose about half of the time ;(

Main V is in the cutoff, V2 is MP. V2 is a notorious limp caller. Bought in for ~120, playing pretty weak/passive. V2's range is wider when the table maniac is in the hand, which he wasn't here.

Lol yeah. Joined back in the PS era but really thought I joined the discussion before now. Guess I was mistaken and just lurking the whole time.

Touche. I just pegged him for a tighter range than X5 for $15 more pre without his main nemesis in the hand.

Y so many calls pre how long have u been at table we should be adjusting

$35 pre. raise is way too small. as played easy bet fold. with that many callers, dont be surprised to see 64o

I need to know how many callers of your raise were in front of V before he called. I'd also like to know how he plays his draws.

1. If 6 people called ahead of him he could have all kinds of junk. Not that it's right but its what people do.

2. Some people will raise draws no matter what. They saw some pro do it on TV and now they think that it's right in any situation.

3. If you're image is as clean as you say, then his raise is real strong. This is assuming he's paying attention to it.

Ranging villain here I would base on basic assumptions. Thats all we have to go on.

AKsuited, KK QQ all should be discounted heavily. The combo draws make little sense as one guy is allin already (but he could still spazz with them), while 444 and 5x fit into the normal "Raise huge and rep a draw" approach that so many use these days.

I would have raised to $30 preflop, and fold to that flop action unless I had seen the villain overplaying draws etc. before.

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