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02-18-2018 , 06:01 PM

paulthecomposer

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 41

£1/2 at DTD in Nottingham.

Villain claims to be a tournament pro but I'm skeptical as he has not been been playing well during this cash game session. His image is LAG and my image is TAG. Effective stacks are £200.

UTG+1 raise £10
Villain HJ raise £30
Hero BTN raise £80
Villain flats

Flop: KKT

Check/Check

Turn: 4

Check/check

River: 9

Villain Bets all in £120
Hero?

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02-18-2018 , 06:07 PM

Gillingham

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 932

very happy to call there is £160 in the pot already £120 is not a big bet in proportion to it,
surprised the chips didn't get in sooner unless you were planning to let him bet his chips away as a bluff or with a weaker hand when he hits a 9 or 10, if he has a king here then not much we can do

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02-18-2018 , 06:46 PM

Case2

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Utterly trivial stack off spot. You got 40% of stacks in pre (well done!). Your only concern in this hand should be figuring out how to get the rest of the money in when you're ahead (since it's all going in when you're behind).

If you had some sick read that he was the mayor of Nitville, you might have some angst, but this is a snap call AP.

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02-18-2018 , 06:48 PM

Nozsr

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In my games nobody checks twice with a King here.

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02-18-2018 , 06:51 PM

Homey D. Clown

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,259

Obviously snapcall.

The more interesting question is what we should do on this flop: shove for 120, check or bet like 35. I'd probably do something silly like the latter.

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02-18-2018 , 07:13 PM

paulthecomposer

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I did snapcall the shove and I'll post the results later.

What do we think he would flat the 4 bet with pre for 40% of his stack? I certainly don't think he flats AK but I think he flats KK sometimes, AA, QQ and possibly JJ. Anything else?

Last edited by paulthecomposer; 02-18-2018 at 07:21 PM.

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02-18-2018 , 11:36 PM

Koss

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You tell us, you're the one playing with him. If he's bad he could have TT/KQs/QJs, as well as other medicore value hands like AQ. At these stakes there's always a spazz factor that comes into play that you can't count out. Sometimes they have 33 here or 87s. Who the F knows. Just range them and play accordingly. I really don't see folding here being possible. Generally when you have less than PSB left when you started with AA, you shouldn't ever be folding.

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02-19-2018 , 03:43 AM

ChrisV

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Originally Posted by paulthecomposer

Villain claims to be a tournament pro but I'm skeptical as he has not been been playing well during this cash game session.

Puzzled as to your skepticism. Sounds like a tournament pro to me.

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02-22-2018 , 09:00 AM

paulthecomposer

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Results:

I called, Villain showed 99 for a rivered set.

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02-23-2018 , 12:44 AM

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Jarretman

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This isn't an instant snapcall spot vs most people tbh. They need some creative bluffs. You don't beat his value so he has to turn some JJ QQ TT type hands into a bluff.

Honestly I think many villains are underbluffing the **** out of this river as played; and also not jamming QQ for value. Esp given how most villains respond to cold 4bets at this level.

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