I just table changed to a juicier table, big stacks, big bets, lots of aggression from the few hands I've seen.

Hero just table changed. 20s young, black and headphones with A light blue zipup hoodie, I'm never getting respect for any hand.

V: Monster stack just over 400. Old 300lb woman. No other reads so I'm a bit cautious having her on my direct left.

Hand: Hero gets dealt AA UTG+1 and slides out 14. Villain is the only caller heads up.

Flop (30) : 497 rainbow
Hero check calls 20

Turn (70) : 5
Hero check/calls 25

River (120) : brick
Hero leads 50 V calls and mucks.

My feeling for calling down the flop and turn are that I have no reads, and I'm a pussy with aces. I also range her PF with TT-KK, AQs+. So unless a Broadway card comes my plan is to check/call down and lead the river.

After her PF call I had a 90% feeling she would happily continue betting to the river and call a river bet from me.

I think my river bet should have been bigger though, like 75ish but I wanted to get my bet out fast and didn't want to count from my second rack.

Other thoughts?

I think you should lead out the flop here. If she didnt bet as you predicted then you just lost a street of value. Also the turn needs to be led out or raised. Preferrably led out. You might have caught her in a smaller overpair and its a dream situation so you should be maximizing it more.

Also what kind of brick is river? Since the board is pretty low, wouldnt any low card throw together some possible straights there? Probably should take that into consideration in getting value.

River was a 2 I believe.

Good points.

What makes you think that she will bet the flop? I might have missed that part.
If we had reads that she would bet, it's one thing. But since we don't, we pretty much should always bet the flop.

Same thing on the turn.

River is fine obviously. Maybe a touch bigger, but whatever.

And really, what is a brick on this board? If you range her on TT+ then any card over a 9 isn't a brick. Any card that pairs that board isn't really a brick. Any card that puts 4 to a straight or completes an open ender is also not a brick.


Also: It's whatever, but $400 isn't really a monster stack.

You say you have no reads, yet you believe that "I'm never getting respect for any hand." So take advantage of the fact that nobody has reads on you. Maybe do something goofy like overbet the pot otf and take it from there.

As it is your first impression with the table is now likely "tricky."

I know I'm never getting respect, because of my history of live poker. I really just don't look like "I know what I'm doing".

Early 20s, zipup, headphones, and constantly staring off in space. Oh and black, poker rooms generally don't give much respect to us, usually see us as drawing players.

Honestly nothing in particular, just a gut instinct. She had over twice my stack and I felt she'd try to bully me.

You should have potted every street then overbet river unless you were played back at...then obv re-evaluate.

The only additional thought I can have here is:

What card is a "brick" on a 4975 board?

Hate your line. Missing value on every street.

after seeing this hand, id label you as someone who doesnt know what they are doing.

you are playing poker, not getting into a sumo match with villian. villian having a larger than normal stack doesnt mean anything except they might have won a hand and collected chippies.

however in the wonderful world of LLSNL, villian probably had JJ and is super thankful you played your hand terribly and didnt stack them. i mean, you did hand read her for TT+, AQs right?

Ok well the flop check is on orthodox and I prefer just leading. The turn flat is bad as well, you miss so much value from any over pair etc. so lets say you bet bet bet. So you lead for 25 making the pot 80 dollars. Then you lead for 50-60 making the pot 180 and he. Bet 120 on river. You should be able to bet fold Aces sometimes. By not being the aggressor you are leaving $ on the table.

Poker is all about maximizing profit with your strong hands and minimizing with your weak hands. You don't sit around waiting for aces just to miss tons of value. Not to mention as far as most boards go that is a great flop for aces. Don't play scared money it is bad for your game.

Dude. Read your HH, pretend it was written by someone else. Comment.

This is a good idea..he usually has some nice theories

If your never getting credit just bet bet bet. Check ,check , bet looks super strong to rec players on. Non draws board. $400 at 1/2 is not a monster stack, not sure if even call that a monster at 1/1.

you say you're never getting credit yet you don't Cbet the flop with the best hand ... doesn't make sense DUCY

The worst part is he probably would have bet/called the river if she raised.

Yep.

I disagree with the range you put her on. She either has a nitty range of like JJ+, which is great for you. Or a fishier range of JT+,22+, which isn't quite as good for you.

Assuming she is on a fishy range, there are three possibilities:
1. She is on a good but lesser pocket pair. She will call anything you bet.
2. She is on trash. You might could induce a bluff, but no way she fires 2 barrels and calls your river bet. Otoh she might peel one light otf if she's so inclined.
3. She made a set. In which case she will probably play her hand face up. Almost certainly raising huge somewhere in there.

If you think about it, these factors favor betting the flop at least. I think you make more money betting against QQ than c/c ing to keep JT in for a street.

My comment would be must bet flop, raise turn.

Genuinely lucky your gut that she would bet OTF and OTT worked out, given no reads other than old female whale.

You're a wuss about aces as you said in OP, and other threads. Find a way to get over it.

After I write a hand history I always read it and ask myself what I would tell someone else to do. If it seems painfully obvious for me that I was in FPS or in pus*y mode when it wasn't warranted I just delete it.

Anyways...

After the flop check, i'm not quite sure if you should be checkraising turn. I don't think I have any lines in my playbook that are check/call, check/raise so I can't really offer advice on as played. I would be in the bet/bet/betfold or bet/check/betsoulread, bet/check/checkcall camp totally dependent on player/table, stacksizes.

Hi Trucdouf,

I read your OP and would ask you to ask yourself, "what hands you do cbet with after the flop and why?"

Consistency in your betting patterns would go a long way to help you get max value from your strongest hands as well as your bluffs.

Just my thoughts

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