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Old 07-13-2018, 05:54 PM   #1
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1/2 AA facing donkbet and 2 ppl jamming otf

Hero relative new at the table. Stack 270
V1 asian woman. Really bad. Stack 240
V1 MAWG. No info. Stack 140
1 limper, hero makes it 12 in ep with AA, mp, btn, bb and limper call.

Flop (61) 853
Bb donks, 24, hero raises to 75, folds to btn who goes all in, bb thinks for a minutes and also goes all in. Hero?
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Old 07-13-2018, 06:31 PM   #2
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Re: 1/2 AA facing donkbet and 2 ppl jamming otf

You give descriptions on this hand but don't identify who is in what position.

Not folding once we put the 75 in looking at the stack sizes. There are enough poorly played overpairs here along with diamonds, badly played top pairs, etc.

It's not a dream spot by any means but the stacks are shallow enough IMO to just go with it here.
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Old 07-13-2018, 06:57 PM   #3
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Re: 1/2 AA facing donkbet and 2 ppl jamming otf

V1 (asian woman) is bb
V2 is btn
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Old 07-13-2018, 08:48 PM   #4
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Re: 1/2 AA facing donkbet and 2 ppl jamming otf

I would call. It isn't exactly a fist pumping call but Too many ways you can be facing an over pair and a draw. With better information on V1's donking range and V2's shoving range a fold is possible. But absent good reads you can't fold here for that amount.

Preflop wasn't big enough. Start at $15 here and go up if the table is loose. At a lot of 1/2 tables I would raise this to $20.
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:36 PM   #5
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Re: 1/2 AA facing donkbet and 2 ppl jamming otf

If Asian woman is "really bad" I assume she could just have an 8 with a mediocre kicker here. Never folding. V2 is likely strong, but it's not guaranteed that he has a super strong hand either, and you're drawing pretty live if he has a hand like 53 or 85. It's mainly important that you're beating the bigger stack here and I think you are a majority of the time.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:43 PM   #6
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Re: 1/2 AA facing donkbet and 2 ppl jamming otf

Well... we arent folding when we put in over 1/3 of our stacks vs 2 donkeys
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Old 07-14-2018, 12:59 PM   #7
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Re: 1/2 AA facing donkbet and 2 ppl jamming otf

As played you can't fold but I like calling better than raising with a player behind me.

Pre flop i'm fine with - but could go bigger if table is really bad.
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Old 07-14-2018, 06:54 PM   #8
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Re: 1/2 AA facing donkbet and 2 ppl jamming otf

You can't fold here and I agree with the raise on the flop - $24 is too small for you to be happy with on a draw-heavy board, especially with $60 in the pot preflop.

Your sizing pre- is way too small for 1/2, as evidenced by the fact that you got calls in 4 places. You should be doing $20+ as a default and adjusting to a size where you regularly get 1-2 callers based on table dynamics.
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:05 AM   #9
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Re: 1/2 AA facing donkbet and 2 ppl jamming otf

Sorry for late response.
I called thinking that V1 canīt be that strong when she donks less than 1/2 pot otf and didnīt worry too much about V2 because he could be jamming some draws with his short stack.
V1 had 98o, V2 AJ and we won
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:29 AM   #10
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Re: 1/2 AA facing donkbet and 2 ppl jamming otf

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Sorry for late response.
I called thinking that V1 canīt be that strong when she donks less than 1/2 pot otf and didnīt worry too much about V2 because he could be jamming some draws with his short stack.
V1 had 98o, V2 AJ and we won
Yeah, this seems about right. This is a pure read decision more than anything as the pot is offering you ~ 3-1 to call. Seems like you are good at least 25% of the time vs 2 players so I think it is a crying call.
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