Would you check raise with a set here? I wouldn't. I would guess 2 pair. (K7, K3 or 73) and in 1/2 it seems to be the standard play to check raise large with 2 pair.
If he has 2 pair and you are super deep, should you call or fold?
Would you check raise with a set here? I wouldn't. I would guess 2 pair. (K7, K3 or 73) and in 1/2 it seems to be the standard play to check raise large with 2 pair.
If he has 2 pair and you are super deep, should you call or fold?
In what universe is a "better than average" player calling a 15 BB 3-bet with any of those hands?
His turn check caps his range a bit. You get teh value from Qx and KK especially if he feels you are like totally FOS. I'd be shocked if you're raised on the river, most flushes except a tricky nut flush would bet turn and sets are handcuffed.
Doubt this villain is capable of value-raising a set on the river.
Last edited by StevieP1; 09-17-2013 at 10:15 PM.
Reason: pickles
I think with a one pair hand out of position and without initiative, the best line is a conservative one. I call the flop. I call just about any turn, but make a note of the bet size. If he bets like, 160 or more into 180, I'm folding to most rivers he also bombs because I think a set is likely then. If he bets closer to half pot, I'm probably calling the river.
Once he checked behind, I think you lead the river like, $100. I'm don't think he has the flush, so we're good. If he wants to just give up like that, I doubt he's super strong, so I hope he'll call that value bet.
You guys are crazy... Dudes oop with AA in a 3 bet pot vs a donk with a flush draw on board.... With that being said when we reraise otf ifffff he is to shovel in his whole stack we might be able to find a fold... In which case saving us more money than we would of lost playing like a passive nit and check calling ... All the whole givin him a chance to suck out on us.. Must raise flop... When he just calls and a brick hits stuff it in his face
All you guys saying he should just call on the flop have a lot to learn... Who cares how deep you... It's a 1-2 game out perceived image is loose... His raise could mean a lot on the flop... He might just be trying to take it down with a semi bluff... We must raise here.
If a club hits and he's a thinking player at all he will bet... That's just one of the many reasons you have to raise!
So we want to raise this flop (say, to $300), which will create a $660 pot with only $420 left behind on the turn (i.e. we're committed), so playing for 375bb stacks with the monster known as ONE PAIR, when we probably turned our hand face up by 3betting preflop (if we haven't 3bet a lot this session)? Awesome.
