Fairly typical 1-2 table with a decent amount of loose passive players. No one is horrible, but no one is all that good and no one is particularly imaginative. Hero ($300) has been at table for about 30 minutes and played a few hands--nothing remarkable. BB ($100) is 50 yr old Asian man who is played more than his share of hands with mild aggression and he is a bit chatty. Stack sizes range from about $100 - $350.

5 limpers, H call in in SB w/ 77. BB raises in BB to $13. All limpers call. Hero calls.

Flop ($86): 3710 Checks around.

Turn ($86): A Hero???

Also what do people think of Hero's preflop and flop decisions?

Preflop call is fine, I don't mind the flop check and I'd bet around 60 on turn to get aces / flush draws / straight draws to call, then re evaluate on river

Fold pre. BB isn't deep enough to set mine profitably.

AP, bet $50 OTT to get value from Ax and clubs.

Betting now...$50-$60ish.

Preflop is meh. BB is not as deep as you would like but last to act after everybody else calls the total odds and chance of getting money from another villain make calling better then folding.

I would lead more often then check flop, even aggressive villains are likely to check this flop if they missed. Having checked flop turn is a must lead. Between flush draws, AX and various straight draws you have to be dodging something with this many villains in the hand. If everybody folds to $55 nobody had a hand worth anything.

Folding pre-flop has to be the worst option.

We are getting more than 6 to 1 immediate odds and are we are going 6-way to a flop closing the action. Also, post-flop we are in a great spot when we flop sets as the entire table is in between V and Hero.

While I think taking flop is the best option. I would consider shoving before folding... We have identified that V likely has a wider range than he should, there is $78 in the pot and we likely only need to get through 1 V to pick-up the pot (and can get called by worse and/or flipping with a 30+ bb overlay).

Absolutely call pre. You end the action, get 6:1 direct odds, and massive IO multiway with (I assume) some bigger stacks.

I'd bet the flop. It looks like a weak Tx and starts to get more money in the pot to play for stacks.

As played, I'm a little surprised it checked through. 100% bet the turn. Someone almost certainly has an A and will call. The turn exemplifies why you should bet the flop. Boards get scary fast multiway. Literally every river card that doesn't pair the board completes a straight. You need to start getting value from your hand now.

This is a snap call pf

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pre flop we have direct pot odds of almost 7-1 with some players 300bb's deep. I'm not always worried about just the initial raiser's implied odds in a 7 way pot where we are closing the action.

donk 25 or c/c / c/r depending on who bets are all reasonable options.

the ace is a bad card for us to lead out since we will be representing it, but a lot of people in 1/2 love to call pre with Ax anyway so bet the turn about 45 or 55.

Why is it a snap call? I'm not opposed to hearing why but:

A) We're in the worst possible position post flop, and

B) We don't have reads or stack sizes of the others in the field other than "ranging from $100-350".

nobody is 300bb deep, the most are 150bb deep.

oops 350/2=175bb sorry bout that (but I would still call, we're multiway with 7 players to the flop calling $11 so calling pre is almost 8to1 which is almost break even)

What? Folding 77 pre to getting such an amazing odds? Wtf is that..... Are you only waiting for Aces on live poker tables? How many hands do u play per day? Like 6?

Yeah, I'm a total nit.

So does it mean we should only play 77 when we are 300bb deep? No offence but man I really think this sounded too crazy. We call 12 pre with opportunities to stack at least one guy if we flop a set.

I never said or even implied this.

I think you need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

One reason pre-flop is a call is that we have the correct *DIRECT* odds to flop a set. You can almost disregard implied odds, and stack sizes barely matter. Six villains put in 13, and we have 2 in already; 11 to call and close action with a pot of 80. 80:11 = 7.3:1. We're 7.5:1 to flop a set. So in this situation, we need to win like $2 on average when we flop a set to make our call pre-flop +EV.

So pre is a clear call, though the variables you're citing - position and stack depth - do matter, the call is profitable. And I think it's very profitable - this is a dream spot, and I expect to win much more than $2 on average when we flop a set here multi-way. So many great flops for our hand (A7x, K7x, Q7x, J7x, T7x, etc) give villains top pair hands with a low SPR, and we can often win a stack.

Flop is perfect. The plan imo is to c/c and then lead turns. We c/c so we don't blow people off worse / airy hands w/overcards. When the flop checks through, that's generally fine and gives a villain a chance to catch up. We lead turns to continue to get value (or to start getting value if the flop checked through), and we benefit from the possibility the turn is a J,Q,K,A type card, improving a villain, especially if there's a c-bet with air.

As played, given remaining stack sizes at the table, I'm definitely betting close to pot - probably 80 - on the turn. If someone with a deeper stack calls, we'll have 1 PSB or less on the river. Flop checking through and turn is an ace in a 7-way pot = ideal scenario. It's fairly likely someone here has an ace.

Sizing is important on the turn. 50 is FAR too small a turn bet and FPS imo. It doesn't achieve anything we want it to achieve. We need to think about how and when we capture value from the ranges of hands we're targeting - in this case turned top pair+ and flush draws, perhaps the OESD, perhaps gut shots. On average, that range of hands calls 80 nearly as often as it calls 50.

I like betting turn quite a bit more than check/raising because when we bet pot, we can still definitely get in stacks by the river against Ax even facing one of the larger stacks (bet + a call = pot of 240). In that way, check/raising is unnecessary and a touch FPS. Further, when we check/raise, we risk someone folding hands as strong as Ax. And when we check, it's also possible people will check behind with various hands.

Betting ensures we get more money into the pot. Again, we're targeting Ax+, the straight draw (87), and the club draw as well as a very stationy gut shots (KQ,KJ,QJ) - by the way, if those gut shots won't call a bet of 80, and I don't expect they will, that's OK - we certainly prefer they fold on the turn than get a free card to improve. Gut shots also comprise a small % of ranges.

With many folks with $300 I would probably sweeten the pot pre-flop but being in guaranteed oop I don't hate limping.

On the flop I usually don't like slow playing a set. With 6 others in the pot and you acting first there is a decent chance that someone will bet. And I especially like that the pre-flop raiser is on your immediate left so if he cbets you have up to 5 (obviously not expecting that much) calls before you raise so a bigger pot. And the board is dry so not too much to worry about getting ahead of your set. But I would like checking more if there were an A or some face cards that might have hit these straight-forward players.

I am ok with the call.

On the turn I would definitely be planning to bet after all the checks. But the A does give me pause. I would be tempted to give someone a chance to bet if they hit it and maybe get a couple calls. But I would not risk that. I would bet and hope others did hit the A and are willing to call.

Good point, I sometimes ignore direct odds when considering a call in spots like these but that's obviously a leak I need to work on.

pre is just fine, everyone calling the BB's raise is best case for your odds to set mine. I am really opposed to checking that flop, if anyone has anything, they'll come along. I also hate small bets. I like $40 in this spot. Just under 1/2 PSB. TP will look you up for sure. I would think that a lot of gut shots and over cards are going to call at least one bet here, so build the pot a little. An A on the turn is golden for you. Now is the time to make a 3/4 PSB (or bigger)to get value from anyone that could have 2 pair or charge those that are dumb enough to chase a draw on the turn.

I almost always go for a c/r on the turn. I don't think it's FPS at all, BB might actually be jamming the majority of his range (BB pre flop raising ranges that check this flop are pretty full of aces, or broadway hands compelled to stab), and there's so many people in between you can drop the hammer and they may feel compelled to call off in a huge pot.

pre and flop are very standard. i don't think I could be friends with anyone that folds pre flop. Tbh I'd rather jam than fold (obviously calling is best) since BB's pre flop sizing is pretty weak multiway and limpers never have anything and there's a lot of chips out there. As for flop I think it's close to optimal to not have a leading range when the OR is shortish, on your direct left, and there are 5 players in between (unless you think the pfr has a much lower than average cbet). Checking will allow you to narrow ranges a lot and the pot will be bigger when it gets back to you.

C/R or pot the turn, people don't fold top pair or flush draws...I'd probably overbet it depending on opponent.