Hi all,

Need some thoughts on this

V1: excellent player. Best at the table. Probably bluffs too much , 3 bets light, utilizes position well. We haven’t been playing too many hands together. He puts people in tough spots

He has like 600 to start.

Hero: playing tight. I have 220 to start I think v respects me.

OTTH: this is a straddle pot. UTG LIMPS V1 is UTG+1 and limps.

I raise to 25 with two black aces

V1 is the only one who calls

($64) Flop is 9 5 4 rainbow he checks I bet 35 and he calls.

(134) turn is a Q of diamonds putting two diamonds on. He checks I think about barreling but check to induce a river bluff.

River is a 3 he bets 70. Easy call?

Should we always bet the turn?

Thoughts?

$30-$35 pre. Standard line is bet/bet/shove. If you have a specific reason to deviate from a bet/bet/jam line, then whatever.

As played, shove river.

Call is mandatory here. I think we should bet turn at a very high frequency here something like 80$-90$.

Aside from raising more pre I would like you to elaborate on this line more, because it seems like a great way to spew off your stack. What worse hands do you think call the turn? What worse hands do you think call a river shove?

As played, I like the way you played it. Im not happy about it but I am calling this river, expecting to lose more often than win.

OP started the hand with $220. There is a $6 straddle on. 220/6 = ~37 big blinds effective. I'm pretty much always sticking in my stack with AA when effective stacks are this short.

The whole "this guy is a super competent player and he won't pay me with worse," is a bunch of BS. You are playing 1/2. If V was actually some kind of wizard, then he would be playing 10/20+ at Commerce/Bellagio.

So stick your stack in. They will call with worse. If V actually flopped a set or whatever, then pay the man his money and reload. You are missing way too much value by not piling the money in.

I'm going $30 pre, $45 on the flop and shipping turns (we only less than 1 PSB left at that point)

If he has a set, good for him.

I would understand going for max value against some fishes. But V is described as a good player capable of putting us in tough spots. What hands is he calling with OTT that we beat given the board texture and action? Can't be bad to exercise pot control with 1p in this spot IMO. It also adds deception and makes us tough to play against as V may check/call river lighter once turn goes c/c OR bluff/value-own himself OTR.

If your entire stack is not in the middle by the conclusion of his hand than something went terribly wrong.

I'd prefer to barrel turn here for value, just as I'd barrel as a bluff if I had AJ or AK.

As played though, the river is a close one between calling and raising. Never in a million years am I folding river here.

This, especially if you want to get stax in.

AP, shoving river is pointless to me....you won't get any worse hands to call.

So your advocating checking behind on the turn and letting V actualize his equity for free in hopes he bluffs river or valuetowns himself with a worse hand? There are hands we beat that could have floated flop and might/can call a turn bet. Also if we bet turn it doesn't put is in a tough spot if raised. We will have well over half the eff. Stack in with a reasonably strong hand given the board texture.