Playing at my local casino in London, I'm a reg with a somewhat TAG image depending on who im playing with. At my table everyone is very deep with stacks between 300-700 BB.

Hero: 6,8 spades (HJ)
Villian: xx (button)

Villian has literally just sat down and played one hand, he bought in for 1000. I have 800 behind and also zero history with this player.

Folded around to me and I limp, he raises to 10, blinds fold and I call. (23 in the pot to the flop).

Flop: 3s, 5s, 8h

I check and he bets 25, I raise to 67, he thinks for 10 secs and 3bets to 125. I call.

Turn: Ad

I check, he bets 300 into a pot of 273. Hero????

ez fold imo

fold. some RIO vs bigger flushes/boats if you hit your 8 or spade.

Don't re raise the flop. The worst case scenario is he has a set and your flush outs are all you have . I prefer a flat as this deep you aren't ever wanting to stack off here. You manage to keep the pot small and you can afford to call most turn bets. As played you have to fold as the Ace doesn't scare him at all which Smells like a set. Don't see anything else you can do except fold the turn, you don't even have a draw to the nuts.

Fold PF. No reason to get involved in a hand heads-up OOP with 8 high.

What Casino was it?

If it's the Vic and he's a reg in a spot like this he 100% has it. There are a fair few players who play this style in casinos in London, especially in the older generation against younger aggressive creative villains, bloating the pot with pot size bets on every street. I guarantee 99% of time they absolutely have it. There are so many competent 1/2 Villains, in the Vic especially who can be very creative, but certainly not in a spot like this.

I would have called flop. No point in raising into what is likely a premium hand.

Fold Turn. Given that he would have potted turn too, it's an easy lay down for you.

As played: FOLD.

Fold pre next time. Need more info on Villain and reads.

No reason to ever open limp the hj first off.

When you raise flop your playing a huge pot with a weak hand. I dont think its thats bad though.

The ace is one of the best cards in the deck for you. His range is mostly big pairs, so you have to bet fold the turn.

If I raise the flop theres really not turn Im not barrelling unless im giving up all together. Check calling the turn with a bluff catcher against someone youve never played a hand with is just bad.

Stop saying fold pre with 6-8s 400 bbs deep regardless of position. If you fold pre then you have to be really bad post and if thats the case you shouldnt be this deep.

Just call the flop. I don't even know what to advise once you've raised this flop and been re-raised. What was your plan? I assume it was to call and bink the turn, which failed.

As played, fold turn.

I guess I should've worded the original question differently to question the correct play on the flop. I think that is where I made my mistake. I was very close to 4 betting flop (although I'm not a fan of this so deep), I think calling his 3bet on the flop was incorrect OOP. Flatting was the best option and possibly even a check raise on the turn (given he can only call with this 2 pair hands and small sets, and is folding everything else).

As played I did fold, and he told me he was bluffing 2 mins later. His bet sizing made no sense if he was repping a set, on the flop yes maybe, but his pot sized bet on the turn just smelt like a bluff. However, as mentioned above I perhaps should have flat the flop.

As regards folding pre, well the reason for playing this deep is to sometimes create different lines with small suited hands that are good for deception. That said I was still OOP and villain did only just sit down.

It was in Hippodrome btw.

thanks all.

Shady, also agree with bet folding turn given it's more likely I have nut flush draw and can rep the Ace. I also think there are no hands he's really checking behind on the turn (made or air).

Overall, it was an annoying spot as I knew he was weak. the LAG within me wanted to shove the flop!

I really misread the hand I missed the fl draw and didnt realize he 3 bet your flop c/r.

Ill try again. You dont know anything about villian, but you do know he bought in for 1k in a 1/2 game, so hes probably playing lower then normal and hes probably willing to gamble.

Im fine with the flop c/r, but this deep I would probably just flat.

As played now that I reread the hand Im either 4 bet shoving flop or folding. Its tough to shove that deep but hes repping an overpair, but even if he has an overpair calling is extremely tough, and you still have over 50% equity.

Worst case scenerio you run into a set with 30% equity but its unlikely.

I just think when you show aggression on the flop keep it up or just flat.

Yep, either flatting his raise on the flop or 4 bet shoving or straight fold to his 3bet were the only options. Agree he prob was more a 2/5 player

I think raise pre 400 bbs deep is way better than limping, its pretty obvious you have a flush draw here lol hes obv betting to bet out draws, however he bets so big when the ace comes it really really lowers his hand combos, would kk or qq bet this big? probably never, so its either AA which would he bet this big with a set? Though it really feels like he has a8 , ax of spades at worst. Also , what kinda guy is villian? is he some 90 yr old ww2 vet? is he some young kid? it matters a lot

The problem is preflop mostly. This is an easy raise/fold although it could be a raise/call 400 bb's deep and knowing he has a well defined range. As played even if you call the turn and hit your flush if all the money goes in this deep you are almost always behind.

Villian is middle aged man, he sat down with 10 100 quid chips and immediatly got into the action, in those situations it's rare someone is bluffing but it's just his oversized turn bet which made no sense and imo took sets (including AA) and 2 pairs out of his range. I still believe he just made a wacky bluff but since I had no history on him I folded.

Yes, raise/fold or raise/call pre is better.

This guy nails it.

Turn is, as played, a pretty easy jam. What range can we assign to villain? He nearly evee has a hand he's going to call jams with. and bluffing huge amounts of the time