Villain is 50 ish but lagtardish. Early in session he called a 3b from a super nit stud player waiting for the 20/40 stud game to go who was in the blinds. Stud players 3b range IMO was Black Aces, Red Aces and Two Tone Aces. Stud player led a 9 high flop, villain reraised leaving very little behind, stud player shoved and villain called with a 9. He didn't show other card.

Villain had reloaded nd topped off then had won some pots. I had taken a couple pots from villain and he took a few other hits and now seems to be tilting a bit not visibloy but judging by how active he has become and the wide range of hands he is showing down. He is opening 60% of pots and has opened 3 in a row prior to this (took one pot OTF, folded one to my 3b and showed down a K9o which lost to KQ). His opens are for $8 or $9. Table average open is about $10-$16.

Hero ($450) image is mostly taggish and to this point winning.

Villain ($340ish) opens to $8 from MP 2 calls.

Hero on button 3B to $35 With A T

This is a value raise to ISO villain as he has shown previously to fold to my 3bets as well as call them with poor holdings.

Villain Calls and field callers fold.

Flop ($85) J 3 7

Villain checks

I bet $50 intending to barrel non spade over cards and evaluate villains action on spade or straight card turns.

Villain min raises to $100

I bang bag insta call.

The snap call was stubborness and attempting to show strength with little thought admitedly. I truly do think I have the best hand at the moment but think flush draws are a large part of his range. Obv. sets and AJ are possible. Maybe 7sXs

Basically I think we are in a leveling war now though and I am not thrilled that we are building a sizeable pot for my A high.

Turn ($285) T

Villain checks

I eliminate JT and sets from his range I think both of these he bets as well as AsJx since he would have no flush draw now.

I think I have the best hand a lot here but also think QJ, KJ are certainly possible. I decide on checking back the turn with the plan to call most non spade rivers. At this point we have each fired a bullet and I am hoping to get to showdown now that I have some more showdown value.

River ($285) Q

Villain super turbo insta jams $196 literally one second after the river hits the table.

Hero?

I read your title only and I'm pretty sure you should fold.

Read post. Turbo muck.

He has a piece of this that he likes enough to check raise you with, which he tried to do again on the turn. You're behind probably 90% of the time here.

I wonder if checking back flop and call/calling a good amount of turn/rivers is better line? The way he is described, it doesn't seem like he is folding a lot here on the flop. C-bet seems like it is going to get called or raised if he has even a piece of the flop and this pot is going to balloon a bit too much.

The clickback c/r seems like he picked up a good flop but not the nuts. I expect him to have a lot of big draws here. T9/98/T8/65/64/54/7x of spades are all in his range, along with all big spade draws. Like you said AJ/KJ/QJ/JT also. Turn check confirms my notion that he's waiting for his hand to improve. I'm now less likely to believe he c/r the flop with a jack and then decided to just check the turn after your flat. He would jam right here with TPGK or better imo. River shove seems like what he would do no matter what once you, in his mind, weakly checked the turn back.

I really do think you had the best hand on the turn most of the time. If you are beat I think it's to 8s9s or QsXs or awful AK. Call him down.

Flop bet call is terrible spew. You realise you are cbet bluffing? This stinks of wanting to be seen as the better player, when your goal should be to get his money. Drop our ego in the cloakroom and fold. We could be drawing dead. What are you trying to bluff him off on the flop? I think he´s peeling with most pps here, a lonely Jack will not scare him off for $50. AQ, AK is too narrow a range to be bluffing at. I see a lot of people talk about "I know about position etc.". Well, the most powerful part about position is the ability to check back. Aggromonkeys will always look to C/R when they hit having called a 3bet pre OOP because they assume you will cbet 100%. Here we can use our position to prick his balloon. The free card will act like a truth serum. Check behind and evaluate the turn. He will be forced to show his hand on this street if he wants to build a pot with a monster.

Try to take this hand to showdown for free if you can. We beat nothing except flushdraws against whom we are flipping. Even some bluffs beat us. We don´t want any more money to go into this pot. If you "barrel" and win, it is with the best hand 90%+.

As played, you bet/call on the flop with no pair, no draw. I think 3rd pair on the river must sound like the nuts.

Preflop:

Does AT warrant a huge 3 bets here? With this hand, what kind of flop are you hoping to flop? TPTK type of hand? Are you confident of going all in with AT as TPTK at flop?

Given that both of you are deep, AT is more like a speculative hand where you have tremendous implied odds against a spewy guy if you hit. It also give you more room to outplay the villain.

Conclusion: call preflop.

Flop: Taking a bet/fold line is the better choice. You have no potential to improve in this hand. Calling the flop reraise is more like an ego problem, not wanting to be outplayed by this villain.

Drop your ego and fold to the flop raise.

Preflop is really good. Flop bet is meh if he is unlikely to fold a lot. On river I dunno it's close. You are getting a good price and his turn check is pretty weird.

its close, but it think its a fold, you dont even have spade blockers

they are not a large part of his range when he reaches the flop, unless you think he is capable of raise/calling with any 2 suited (and that will add a lot more pairs too).. and the portion of his range that IS flush draws has big equity against your ace high

cbet flop is ok you can maybe fold out low pp or better ace high

Instafold. What hands do you beat?

Even the donks catch the board sometimes...fold

One of the things I try to do at the table is not get myself in tough spots. Tough spots are usually always in big pots, where I can make a big mistake by calling off a huge chunk of my stack with the worst of it or fold with the best of it. Some people will say this thinking is wrong, but whatever, I recognize I'm not all that great in marginal situations so I try to avoid them. So that's why I just flat preflop. Sure, our hand is probably way better than the junk this guy is opening with, and there's a little bit of dead money in the pot with the other two callers, but whatever. If we just flat here, we have deepish stacks and we go at least 4+ ways with a really nice nutmaking multiway hand in position.

(ETA: basically +1 to what Andnoel says above regarding preflop, imo)

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Glad you acknowledge that getting into a leveling war with A high, no draw in a bloated pot is bad.

I like 3b pre here but would also fold to his flop raise.

I don't agree with previous poster saying once he reaches flop, he doesn't have a lot of flush draws in his hand. As described, he seems to call 3b with all of his Axs.

Since you have played with him already for some time, you should be able to describe his behaviour a little after he insta-shoves river. Did you talk to him? Did he stare you down? Did he start talking to others/order cocktail/lean back and sip from drink? Stuff like this.

Absent of any reads, don't think river helps him so it's misplayed JJ or busted flush draw and I call.

Villain is raising 60% of hands litterally from any position so yeah he has a ton of worse hands. AT is ahead of his range. There is a little dead money in there also and a good chance I pick up the pot preflop or OTF.

Obv not.

Yeah normally I would just flat with this hand. As I said I thought I could iso this villain and play him in position with what was likely a stronger hand.

This is probably true to some extent.

flush draws

I'm betting the flop to get value from his flush draws and to get him off possible small pps, and random 7s and possible 3s all of which are in his range which as I mentioned is something like 60% of hands.

I generally don't refer to the nuts as "more showdown value" so no I don't think it's the nuts.

What is Villain's range that beats me OTT when he checks a turn with broadway draw and flush draw after I only flatted his flop re-raise?

Isn't some of MY range comprised of AK? Would a value hand other than AK insta shove without some thought OTR?

Yeah I started talking to him looking for a read. I said "buddy I don't have much but I'm thinking of calling you". He was a statue. I tanked for a minute and a half replaying the hand and also looking for signs of weakness or strength from him, cutting chips hoping he would say something but he didn't. I wanted to call real bad. I felt his range was mostly capped to one pair hands. Biggest concern was a random J he was turning into a bluff which would still be a better hand.

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i like the preflop play im just not sure what logic ur using with this statement, it contradicts itself...

I'm saying v is opening w/ an inferior range Oop to me. I am raising to either take it down PF if he folds ( there is $27 in the pot already) or get v to call and play him heads up with me still ahead of his calling range and OOP.

I tanked and was within inches of calling as I was very certain he was turning something into a bluff. I thought his river bet was polarizing. In the end I was afraid he might be turning a slightly better hand like a random J into a bluff and still have me beat.

I folded.

Villain flashed his hand to another reg I know who after the guy left the game said he flashed 86

Thanks all for the responses. I do get all the WTF? comments about call, flop a monster, go for fat value. That's what I spend most of my low stakes life doiing. Occassionally I do other things too. In this case I tried to out play an aggro monkey on tilt and got outplayed. I will onsider this next time I decide to out play a tilting aggro monkey.

Pretty spot on IMO.

I actually think if I didn't hit my kicker OTT... say a decent barrel card fell. I would have bet and taken the pot much of the time. I think his click back on the flop was his one bullet. When I hit my kicker I sort of went into showdown mode and the turn check opened the door for him to fire again on the river. Given the pot/stack sizes a shove was of course the bet size of choice.

I do think checking back the flop should have been something I considered rather than feeling compelled to keep the betting lead by cbetting.