Utg straddle to $6. ~$300
Hero first orbit. $230.
Villain limps in LP. ~$200
Hero has AJo and raises to $20.
Straddler calls. Villain calls.

J 9 3r
LP bets $20. Hero raises to $60. Straddle folds LP calls
Turn is a 10. villain checks.
Hero?


I would like to hear not sure what we should do right now on the turn, but our plan going forward. I guess I should've thought about this before I raised flop. But what is my plan going forward here?

Do I value bet targeting KJ/QJ/J10/straight draws? What if he raises? What if he calls and then donks river?

This hand is missing so much relevant information

Straddle makes it like 40bb effective so..

Call flop most of the time, unless we are going to get a PSB left OTT to shove if this villain will...
1) call with a lot of worse hands
2) is a station/loose passive and not very competent

Pointless thread go AI now OTT. Needless to say it's not the best card we could have asked for as it does improve villain's range.

Updated with stack sizes.

Didnt mean to put a pointless thread.

I normally don't raise with just tptk. And like I said, I should've thought about this before I raised.

Also was not sure where the line is over playing tptk when I'm brand new to a table

Sorry for the harsh words actually lol, yeah 1/3 bet is like a blocker bet villain is making in this spot not really to induce, but betting to find out where he is @ versus your range...

Overall good line vs. this villain, but if you raise you have to have a plan for a re-raise always...

It's probably just a thing for me.... (and easily exploitable if I was playing against the same group regularly - which I don't)... but I don't like to get involved in marginal hands in first orbit... i like to feel out the speed and flow of the table. Anyway - forgetting all that...

I guess you are BTN (IP anyway). I like coming in with a raise. Sizing looks fine.

Decent flop.... donk bet rarely is a set here I think. So I like the raise... though probably a bit bigger. You just want to give yourself a push OOT, targetting a weaker J.

T is a crappy card as JT is def square in his range. And if not 2p - it probably opens up some draws (QJ, KJ). But if we're beind - probably not getting away.... I think you have a PSB left.... I'd fire it.

Yeah - I mean if I'm in EP with AJo at a brand new table I'm mucking. Really the only reason is because I'm on the button.

And agreed that the 10 hits his range hard....

Are we still betting the turn?

Ofc we are...

Our hand vs. his range OTT given PSB left we shouldn't have a checking range @ all here go AI like i said if he has JT or some 2pair combo sucks to get sucked out man...

I'd make it $25 preflop just to get in a bit more of my stack preflop to make a stackoff with TP postflop trivial. Also not the end of the world if we take down all this dead money now.

I'm feeling pretty commited on this flop 3ways with an SPR of 3 against the donker. Any reads whatsoever on LP donker? If this weak bet is a bet-to-find-out-where-I'm-at and he's likely to fold to any aggression, I might just flat here to entice him to lose his stack on later streets. Otherwise, I'd raise. At this point, he only has $160 left and pot is already $80; I'd probably just shove.

As played, the pot is $180 and he has $120 left. Even though KQ (overs + gutshot) and JT/etc. got there, the turn is a trivial shove at this point with these stacks, imo.

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I guess I played this way too passively. I just wasn't sure how to react to:

Brand new table, no reads. somewhat marginal hand in AJ; even though I got a great flop, unknown villain donks into me and I raise him and he still calls. Not a great turn card, but I guess he leads into turn again if he hit 2 pair. Oh well... Thanks for the advice all.

No worries man and btw not all villains lead OTT when they have the nuts (well most do @ LLSNL more value heavy anyways) it's good to not make assumptions like that in general unless you've actually seen him do it... Reads are key.

GL.

Agree we dont have to raise flop even tho the donk is small. Passive line ip can get most from his weak J.

As played prefer check back turn. Even his best drawing hands QT QJ are not strong enough to call potsize shove, KJ even worse. We can easily make him to call only JT.

Check turn and call(bet) brick river. Shove turn when you believe he is not able to find that he cannot call with pair+SD.