A little background here.. Playing 1/2/3 at Matrix in San Jose. V1 is probably the most competent opponent on the table. He's about 24 and wearing a pokerstars hoodie, has a friend in tow sitting next to him. I have played with him before and he 3bets opens often especially when ip and 2 or 3 players have called. I would say this takes it down most of the time. V2 is a rec who seems to have moderate difficulty in some spots.

There were two earlier hands which I think are important for context here, when I had just changed to his table:

1. H is UTG with 340 behind. Open to 15 with TT, UTG2 call, HJ call, V1 BTN makes it 75. No room to dilly dally, but thinking that I was too strong vs his likely 3bet range to fold, I shove and he mucks. He was on the opposite side of the table, but I could hear them talking about it for the next 10 or so minutes. They concluded AA/KK, I guess since most 1/2/3 players in this spot just flat or fold with almost anything else. I could make out KQs in the conversation. I took note and figured the next time he 3bet my open he would probably be showing up with a stronger hand.

2. Next orbit UTG1 H 99 open to 6, a few callers, happy to call a 3bet and set mine. Flopped 987 bet and got it. He remarked that he thought about doing it again but viewed the min open as suspicious.

The main hand 2 orbits later:

H UTG AK 450 or so behind. I take a glance around and it looks like a 200 stack in MP likes his hand quite a bit. V1(770) has BTN.

I open to 6, predictably almost everyone calls until BTN V1 3bet to 45.
V2 BB calls.

I decide to call, figuring stack sizes are kinda awkward and V1 might go to war with 99+ this time and don't really wanna have to flip or lose my stack if I 4bet. I also figure nut club potential isn't insubstantial and can maybe induce V1 to bluff if I hit TP. It also seems small enough that I won't get married to it if I face enough aggression from another player post flop.

UTG2 call, LJ ss call all in HJ ss call all in.

Flop(270) KJ8.

BB V2 bets 105, I consider folding but look around and it looks like it'll go HU so I call. All others fold.

Turn(480) 4 V2 check
Hero: ???

A friend remarked that I really ****ed up the open sizing. I would have likely done some standard 15 open if my hand wasn't suited and didn't have any more durable equity.

Should I be worried about anything post flop? Anyone argue that I would be better off getting AIPF with V1 or just taking down the 100 or so pf.

Please don't post results. It biases responses. I edited them out.

Not competent. Just a poker douche. I mean, likely true that he's the most "competent" at the table, but he's a walking stereotype of wannabe poker dude who is absolutely horrible for the game.

OTTH: Shove pre, AINEC. You induced exactly what you were hoping to induce, now punish this douche. A ridiculously bloated pot mega-multi-way OOP is not what you are looking for here.

Not going to comment on post, as I saw results.

+1

You gotta be very happy when he re-raises your small open ; Punish him; being afraid of flipping is very poor logic imo

Thanks, I'm still new to posting here so I appreciate it. And yes, for clarity I did find posing as a ps pro while playing 1/2/3 on Saturday night kinda silly.. By most competent, I meant that nobody at the table was playing back at him and didn't adjust their opens/calls and were just getting run over constantly.

I shouldn't worry about needing to raise more than 10x shoving pre? I should do this simply because any alternative is worse? I felt at the time this skews his calls toward aces or kings without enough dead money to make it worth the risk.

There's a ton of "dead" money in there, plus you look like you're squeezing. I expect he calls a shove with 88+ and some dominated aces, and frankly if he folds PPs, so much the better for us.

Also, you're not effectively shoving for 10x (his bet) but for about 2.5x pot. Pot is about $165 with your call.

I don't hate the idea of the min open this deep but the whole point of it for me seems to be to 4bet the incoming 3bet. Also, if MP looks interested in his hand I would maybe just prefer a limp and hope he opens, gets 3bet, then we can 4bet for MP's stack. Anyhoo, as played against a wide 3better I'm liking reraising to an amount that will setup a PSB shove on the flop, so I'd go like $150+ and shove any flop I'm not crushing; if he's willing to go to war preflop and on a flop with overs with 99, good for him. Calling off a huge 10% of our stack preflop OOP against the most competent player at the table just isn't going to be profitable, imo.

Facing the flop action (which isn't really very scary given you wouldn't think a huge hand would be so little into a huge pot on this very drawy board) I just ship it now.

I think we've got < PSB on the turn so I obviously ship when checked to.

I'll admit I've never minraised preflop but I do mostly just limp here which is almost the same thing, so I don't think there is anything wrong with the preflop sizing.

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Without even looking at the hand, why did you raise to 15 in H1 and 6 in H2?

I’ve been really confused with bet sizing since I started reading this forum (earlier today). What are you hoping to gain by making it $6 to go in a 1/2/3 game?