So i have a pretty solid lurking account here and don't usually post any hands but i have been playing quite a bit lately and would like to start. So here is the hand.

1/2 Live FR 100-500 Buy in

Hero ($1100) OTB - I have been sitting at the table for about 4 hours or so and built up my stack from 300 and and now have 1100 in front of me. The villains in the hand don't have much history with me but I have a pretty solid winning image in the room. Have been making hands and getting paid off today.

V1 ($500) UTG +2 - 40's Asian who i have never played with but seems like somewhat of a regular in the room. From the remarks of other players when he sits down, sounds like he plays quite a few hands but that is all i can gather.

V2 ($500) CO - 20's Asian player. Solid LAG. Raises from late position quite often and Cbet takes it down quite a bit. Online player that plays the 2/5 games when we have one running. He doesn't have much relevance post flop but plays into my decision making pre.

V1 Limps, MP limps, V2 (CO) raises to 15, Hero has AK on the button and flats, V1 calls, MP calls.

Flop Kc 7s 4d (pot 60)

Checks around to Hero who bets 40, V1 Calls

Turn Ks (pot 140)

V1 Checks, Hero bets 85, V1 Calls

River 8h (pot 310)

V1 Bets 200, Hero?



I flatted pre as i figure this villain was raising a ton of cards in this spot A10+, PP, and SC. Didn't want to 3bet as I am really only making him fold worse hands.

If i forgot anything please let me know!

3-bet pre to like $55. Nothing wrong with taking down 10BBs variance free with A-high if they fold. If he does have PPs, as you're speculating, then you're giving him (and other Vs) odds to set mine if you don't 3-bet. Stacks are too deep to let garbage hands see the flop for cheap. Plus, if you only 3-bet AA and KK, your hands will be face up and you might be less likely to action on your AA/KK. Any raising/3-betting on the button looks weaker than other positions, too. They might not even give you as much credit as you think they will.

With no reads on V, I don't like raising the river. I'd just call. If you raise, you might get a call from trips with a worse kicker, but it's probably more likely that he's got a FH if he gives you any action after a river raise. 56 for the straight is also very possible. $200 is probably about what we would have bet anyways.

I also would go a little higher on the turn....like $100-$110.

Grunch.

Hmm... 56 just got there and he probably has many combo's of possible boats in his range (44,77,88, and possibly even K8). The thing is... is that if he's got K8 in his range then he's got K9-KQ in his range also. I would really hate to just call and have him show KT, but his line is pretty strong so I probably just call. Some reads on what his limping/raising ranges are pre-flop would help. Your hand is too strong to fold IMO. Other than that I'm fine with your line.

Sigh fold if v is a nit... most of the time here you'll see a beautiful 56

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Yeah, but at a table full of gambooly Asians, "they" won't fold. This is 1/2, remember. Then if you whiff, you c-bet, get called, check-fold the turn, and they say "had you on ace king", as they stack a half a buy-in of your chips (way more than the 10bbs you'd have gotten had "they" folded). Seen this movie a thousand times. $15 is a healthy preflop bet, no need to get outrageous.

I'd have bet more on the turn, but whatever. We might be stuck in Valuetown here, depending on soul reads.

If he's a LAG, then he's opening WAY wider than that, and should be defending pretty wide COvBU, too. I'm considering a 3b here with any ace, any decent king, any semi-connected suited hand, any suited cards with paint, etc, so you should be able to 3b AQ+ for very fat value. All of this is obviously very dependent on who the limpers and blinds are as the play of a table will somewhat revolve around the table's biggest marks, but the point is that you should be 3b'ing wide enough here that AK is an easy 3b for value hand.

Make it ~$42.

As played, I probably make it ~$25 on the flop with my entire betting range.

As played, this is a weird way for a weak K to play it since he surely thinks he gets more value from us bluffing than he does from us having ... TT?! Lol. I'm not sure why he would x/c two streets on the greatest cbetting board ever with too much pure air, so it's tough to put him on bluffs, even spades.

He could maybe have a value hand and thinks he gets more value from our bluffs if he bets and we shove then if he crai's (or he doesn't think his hand is quite good enough to crai, but it's good enough to call a shove), but this doesn't seem like much of an inducing bet.

I'm not sure. I'm probably most concerned about 88 and K8, since split pairs/TPNK are exactly the type of hands that would x/c flop. He could also x/c 77/44 here some, either because he's on level 1 and thinks that slow-playing nutted hands on dry boards is what cool people do or because he's on level 3 and thinks he should protect his checking range and can scoop some bets from air when he checks. But we beat most every combo of everything, and we very rarely have a hand as good as trips-top-kicker when we flat/bet/bet, so I'm definitely calling at the very least. Probably just confused flatting, though -.-

Well goddammit, I thought the hand was versus V2. Completely disregard my entire postflop handreading exercise.

-.-

^ Setting myself up for "What? You think all asians look alike?"

Okay, I've regrouped: DEFINITELY bet turn harder. We're trying to cooler worse Kx here, so just pot it with the intention of shoving river. Who knows, maybe he'll think a big bet is more likely a bluff than Kx (because most live players try to price people into a call when they have trips) and we might once in a blue moon get him to call with a split pair.

As played, he has every combo of every better hand in his range, but trips is such a monster in his mind that I think he has a lot of combos of that as well. I'm folding KJ for sure, but I don't think I can find a fold with AK. We just cooler too many trips to fold for this price.

He limp/called from EP, so could be lots of hands, including weaker Ks, 44, 77, maybe 88 and maybe 56. I probably flat here, but KQ, KJ and KT are all calling for his last $160, so it might be losing value.

I would have bet a bit more on the turn.

Pre-flop I can go either way (flat or raise).

Sounds like 56 to me. Could also be 88. I am not sure why you aren't 3 betting, especially based on your description of V2 opening often in late position. You should be way ahead of his range. Instead, you are inviting taking a flop 4 ways with the worst relative position in the hand.

Do we really think K9-KQ is check calling twice to lead the river? I personally don't think so. As played this is probably a fold, although it is worth repeating that your mistake here was not 3 betting pre flop.

I've seen people play Kx like this often enough that I think it's a crying call.

I would definitely 3 bet flop. He could be slow playing a set or holding 56. Either way you're beat. Your range is all over trip kings. Fold.

I don't think I can fold this against an unfamiliar loose villain, I've seen trips played this way often enough.

If we give him 44, 77, 56, K4s+, KTo+ then we're beating 30 combos and losing to 26 combos - if he plays all combos the same then we can shove for value (assuming he calls 100%). He's way more likely to just check-call with trips though so it's a call imo.

This was my thought as i tanked the river. I think this particular villain shows up with all combos of Kxs so many time here that i figured making the call was a profitable one in the long run.

He ended up showing 44 and taking down the pot. I think that my mistake was pre by not 3 betting this from the button which would have made this hand a lot easier to play and i wouldn't have had the river decision. I think that forcing the villain to make the mistake preflop by having to call off 1/6 of his stack in order to hit a set was a missed play by me.

Thanks all for the input!

A lot of players think that life can't possibly be so cruel as to deal two players trips in the same hand. K9 is absolutely going to feel like an absolute monster for him once all the draws missed.

Not everyone feels that way, and some people give some consideration to the tirps kicker, so I would discount the 16 combos a bit, but it would take a 70%+ discount (and 100% inclusion of every single combo that beats us) for this to not at least be a crying call.