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09-08-2013 , 03:24 AM
Hand 1- eff stacks ~$190

Reads: HJ calls loose and splashes around but hasn't raised with less than the 2nd nuts postflop in four hours. Seems fairly competent, but not all that bright.

Hero is BB with Q2

UTG calls
UTG+1 calls
UTG +2 folds
MP1 calls
MP2 calls
HJ calls
CO folds
BTN calls
SB calls
BB checks

Flop: J22

Checks to HJ who bets $5.

BTN and SB fold.

BB raises to $20, folds to HJ who goes all-in. BB?
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Hand 2- eff stacks ~$250

Reads: BTN is an old white guy who value bets hands he shouldn't but isn't getting out of line with his raises. Only been at the table for about an hour.

Hero is BB with AT

UTG folds
UTG+1 calls
UTG +2 folds
MP1 calls
HJ calls
CO folds
BTN calls
SB calls
BB checks

Flop: 6A7

SB checks, BB betsa $10. Fold to BTN who raises to $60. SB folds, BB?
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09-08-2013 , 03:25 AM
hand 1 snap call sorry he had A2

hand 2 all-in
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09-08-2013 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
hand 1 snap call sorry he had A2

hand 2 all-in
This. Seems decently standard
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09-08-2013 , 03:36 AM
Cant delete erroneous posts on my phone... ****... please ignore this
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09-08-2013 , 04:27 PM
Hand 1 I would love to know what you guys think he's making this huge overshove with that Q2 beats. Hero folds face up, HJ flips out and shows JJ.

Hand 2 hero knows there's a good chance it's wrong and folds what he feels is basically a flush draw.
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09-08-2013 , 05:17 PM
Hand 1: can't really fold, theres only 4 hands that have you beat here.

Hand 2: I would try to get it all in here
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09-08-2013 , 10:29 PM
Having had some time to think about it, I concede that you guys were right and I should have shoved the AT.

The Q2 though... I dunno. There has to be room for a fold there if I'm sure, right? Everything from my read on him over all to the way he announced the all-in told me he was sure he was good and wanted a call.
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09-08-2013 , 11:04 PM
i honestly cant believe you folded the A10, you're a favorite over 67 and A6

as to the Q2 what do you want us to tell you? you were at the friggin table if you have a s1ck s0ul read then fold otherwise what are you even asking us?
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09-08-2013 , 11:40 PM
The guy berated me for a good twenty minutes, and I think it messed with my head a little. I guess I just wanted someone to tell me it's okay to fold a good hand if you have a good read. You're right- it wasn't post-worthy.

Having run some sims I see that hand #2 was an abomination- I had no idea I was 45% against AK. Super easy shove that I flubbed (and normally I do shove there, but normally I feel like hands that are ahead are a smaller part of my opponents' range). So, I learned something, and I guess this thread wasn't a total waste. Thanks for everyone's input.
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09-08-2013 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 2J4U

Having run some sims I see that hand #2 was an abomination- I had no idea I was 45% against AK. Super easy shove that I flubbed (and normally I do shove there, but normally I feel like hands that are ahead are a smaller part of my opponents' range). So, I learned something, and I guess this thread wasn't a total waste. Thanks for everyone's input.
assuming he ever has a draw or ever has a naked ace like AQ or AJ that he sometimes folds to a shove, obv you see why you need to jam

of course if his range is exactly A7,A6,77,66 that sucks but somehow i doubt that
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09-08-2013 , 11:50 PM
and if first guy berates you laugh at him for being an idiot
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09-08-2013 , 11:50 PM
Only way I'm folding hand 1 is if you're insanely deep. Hes never having JJ. And I dont see why he'd raise you like that if he did have a strong as a hand as A2 K2 unless hes selling you on a bluff. But with stacks under 100bb theres no reason for him to make that complex of a move. Theres my reasoning for calling. He does have A2 or K2 sometimes but it a small portion of his range.
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09-09-2013 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
assuming he ever has a draw or ever has a naked ace like AQ or AJ that he sometimes folds to a shove, obv you see why you need to jam

of course if his range is exactly A7,A6,77,66 that sucks but somehow i doubt that
You are absolutely correct- I was pretty off in my equity estimations. That's a serious leak that I will be working hard to plug. I will say, slightly in my defense, I'm confident that I had ~0 FE against bigger aces.
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
and if first guy berates you laugh at him for being an idiot
At least I played something right
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Originally Posted by Triple7quinn
Hes never having JJ.
Welp.
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09-09-2013 , 05:17 AM
Hand #1 it is painfully obvious you have a 2 in your hand, villain hasn't raised less than 2nd nuts in four hours, it's a friggin 7-way pot. I think he can beat trips with a Q kicker. Fold is absolutely correct I can't believe people want to call. Raising the flop is a mistake as well IMO as it takes the J's out of your range. If V is particularly stationey you can justify it, but you have to have a plan and know that it is a raise/fold.
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