Villain in hand has been there about an hour, but I have him tagged has a Nit TAG. Hasn't been real active, but when he is in a hand its a raise pre. He also has not showndown I dont think at all.

He seen me make a big bluff on a guy with 92. I have been actively limping and raising, but generally with broadway cards. He probably see's me as a not so LAG and not so TAG with tricks up my sleeve.

Villain has $247
Hero covers

1 limper
Hero in MP raises to $16
Villain behind calls $16
Folds

Flop ($37)

10 7 3 rainbow

Hero bets $30
Villain raises to $60
Hero calls $30

I did this to under rep my hand. I figured villains flatting range to be 22-QQ, A10s+, AJ+. If he did have an underpair I wanted him to level, and if he had A10 I wanted him to think TPTK was good. At the same time the guy is a nit and there is an off chance he has a better hand here.

Turn ($127)

Q

Hero checks
Villain bets $60
Hero?

This is where I was lost. He is a tight player and nothing on the board seems to scare him. The problem is I under repped my hand so much that I feel like not stacking here is a crime. Where do we put him at? What is he firing into us with that we beat?

I think you either have to maxbet or fold to the flop raise. The flop is dry as ****. If you can't go to town, don't call.

Can you go nuts with this guy? My standard here would be to try to get it in. Against a nit-tag? We know he isn't doing this with JJ. QQ? Mmmmmmmmmmaaaaaayyyyyyybbbbeee. You're out of position and so likely to face more bets. If you're not comfortable putting that money in now, you're not going to be comfortable doing it with anythin less than a 2-outer.

I think folding is best honestly. The damage to your image is probably worth the money you'll save by folding when nits raise.

TT+, 77, AT (maybe). Kinda surprise you didn't shove the flop. At this point, the only thing he could have that you beat is JJ and AT.

Sigh.

A nit/tag will never have a set and min raise on the flop in this situation. They are well know for getting aggressive against a LAG opponent with TP rather than playing weak/tight.

This is sarcasm, right? I never got my meter calibrated.

The problems here are being OOP, and having too high an SPR for the hand and player type.

And yet I get slammed when I say I don't think I'm losing much value by missing out on the "free" chance to hit AA UTG when I pick up and leave in MP.

I may raise a little more preflop, maybe $18-22.

Is this guy the type to push you off of bluffs? If not, I think overbetting the flop will allow you to get away when you're beat, but that depends on how much he over-values TPTK. But is he playing AT here? If he raises, can you let it go?

OTOH, I know a lot of passive players who will uncomfortably call down weaker TP or overpair hands to 1/3 or 1/2 PSBs. Will he raise 3x a $20 bet with a hand you beat? If he's still min-raising QQ or AT, you can call and check the turn, then call down or lead the river if the turn checks through. You're WAWB, so no need to go nuts.

Rough spot, for sure.

I think at this point you need to review your history at the table and try to find a situation where the villain is betting 1/2 pot after showing strong on the flop/pre-flop.

$60 on the turn just seems weak/scared to me. I think you are WAWB in this situation. Your nit might be scared of a higher set or bigger over pair or has something like AT, KT types of hands. I am weighting Tx hands heavier than sets and BPP.

As played, I am torn between c/c and c/c reasonable/small bet or c/f the turn. Since I have no respect what so ever for money, I likely c/c turn and c/c most rivers and expect him to table a smaller PP or AT or KT.

Maybe you would have gotten a discount if you had gotten it done with Kurt's computer when it got fixed.

My point is that the discussion so far is ignoring that a nit/tag raised. Nits don't take the lead in a hand without a big hand. The first question is whether he thinks an over pair is a big hand or a set. The other question is whether Hero wants to stack off with KK. The OP is wrong in that he is actually repping his hand as JJ-AA. He's not underrepping it at all.

Stacking off with an over pair on the turn has not historically been a happy experience for me against nits. I'll admit I don't have much recent experience with it.

I agree. I surprised myself by folding AA on a seemingly dry flop not too long ago, and without much consideration. Not much had been put in, and my nitty opponent was acting far too interested.

Even if it's a mild mistake to fold it sometimes, I think it's more of a mistake to overplay it the other times.

Bigger PF...

Flop min-raise has alarm bells going off in my head (because of the described player but a call is fine)...

...Turn is an easy fold as u now beat nothing.

Honestly I planned to lead the turn but the Q hit and that threw a wrench into my plan...


THEN...

I leveled myself and said I know 2p2 would say you have to stack off with KK here, while the angel on my shoulder said hey dummy you beat nothing here. So crai... he tanks for a very long time

WOOOHOOOOOO he must have JJ or some spew hand...

Finally calls and has AA. Nit roll FTMFW. And why a nit roll you may ask? Because he says to me, "I knew you had KK." lol.

OTT when I checked and he kept betting into me I think it was pretty obvious that he had a strong hand (I didnt think AA but at least a set). Given his image I dont think he is ever playing JJ or below this way, especially OTT, and if he has QQ he just got there. Levelments FTW.

+1

Also - nits will call with TP or JJ. They are min-raising sets, AA, QQ. Also, 1/2 nits never have many bluffs/semi-bluffs in their range, if at all.