1/1 pound game, 9 Max.

Hand 1
V1 regular, loose passive, (cold call 25/pfr 5/20 hands) 90BB effective stacks
V2 loose passive, (cold call 60/pfr 5/96 hands) 100BB effective stacks
V3 loose aggressive (cold call 52/pfr 25/65 hands) 200BB effective stacks

Pre-flop
2limpers, V2 (HJ) open 8BB, V3 (Btn) cold call, Hero (BB) cold call with AQo (?), V1 (MP3) limp-call.

Flop= J T 8 r, (34BB)
V1 x, V2 cbet 15BB, V3 call, Hero call (?), V1 x-r to 30BB, V2&V3 fold, Hero shove. (?), V1 snap call (should I also not write the V’s action after I shove?).

I got few questions. As I know V2 is quite weak and passive so I know his open range is quite tight and may not fold to any 3bet unless I use a extremely big 3bet size. I got AQo oop, and effective stacks are 100BB, I think I will get a 4.1-3.1 SPR on a 4-way flop.

1. Should I 3bet, flat, or maybe fold? If I squeeze here, what should I do if I miss (like K-high flop or 9-high flop)? If I squeeze here (e.g. I 3bet to 32BB), and V2 4bet shove, could I fold or just call?

2. On the flop, should I 2bet or just flat? As V2’s c-bet is quite weak so I think I can make him fold some missed hand, but the odds is quite good to call. Which one is better?

3. If I flat as what I did, when facing a mini x-r, should I just call, or shove it? At first I think that I have tiny fold equity, but afterward I realise V1 will only 2bet strong made hands (2pair+) here, and just flat draw and combo draws as the odds is very good.
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Hand 2

V1 regular ABC, (cold call 17/pfr 11/246),130BB effective stacks

Pre-flop
Hero (EP1) opens 6BB with AhAd, V1 (EP2) flats.

Flop=AcKs6s (14BB)
Hero x, V1 bet 8BB, Hero x-r to 25BB, V1 folds. Hero showed AA (I just want show my Top x-r range to him).

Will you slow play this hand? Why? Am I make a mistake or missing value here? I x-r for value, but I am sure V1 will fold AJ-, 50% call with AQ, and stack off with AK KK 66. but the fact is my AA blocked too many combos. Yeah I am quite worried about flush draw, 4 outer straight draw, but my main goal of x-r is build the pot, and hope I can get paid by V. So my x-r is a value bet that cannot get many worse hands to call.

If I x call on the flop, I will still x on the turn for x-r. Any not sure fast play in this hand is a mistake or not.

Plz help. I am still confuse when I review it.

Hand 1: you're doing pretty meh against a ~5% hand range and OOP I would just fold this preflop. AP we are behind for sure, the min-raise = minimum top two pair here but 94bb in pot and only 15bb to call. We have 8 outs. But if we miss the turn, we're facing another bet. Villain is never folding to a shove and has 52bb behind. We only need 26% equity to shove, so shoving is best while we still have our outs.

Hand 2: I'm never x/r here, just c-bet. Pray he has 66. Don't show.

Thx, sorry what is "meh" means?

Hand 1, Yes, I think fold pre is a good option, AQ is cannot value any Ax from V's open range, and oop make its tough. So in hand 1, could I say preflop, fold>3bet>call?

Hand 2, If I cbet it is clear my range is AJs+ AQ+ AK+ AAKK+, it is still a value bet (because there is not too many worse hand can call with, KQ+, strong flush draw or combo draws.

I play another Top set in this session, I 4x 3bet with KK and a fish call me, I cbet on Kc9s6s flop and shove on turn, as I know a fish can make so many calling mistakes, so I think cbet is far more better than xr. but in hand 2 ABC do not make many calling mistake, so I am not sure.

You think cbet>xr, would u consider x-c?

Thank you very much for your reply.

In hand 1 V1 limped call with Q9o

By 'meh', I meant 'you are behind'. Against a wider range I would 3bet for value, here this villain is likely to fold only a small portion of his range and leave you behind and OOP. So yeah fold>3bet>call IMO.

Hand 2, the reason I don't x/r is because it's a strong move and folds out hands that might call a cbet or even 2. I also will cbet because villains don't tend to put us on top set. Also a thinking villain will consider that we 'should' bet this flop. Also I'm not letting anyone draw for free. I would x/c a A92 rainbow flop vs. this kind of villain because there's so little he can have that stands aggression and we have him crushed.

Yeah，I know what you mean. For cbet I may get called with KQ 2st but xr let V have no opportunity to make a mistake. and he would not put hero on AA. and in hands up I will cbet any 2 card as this flop hits my range. V may still call 1 or 2 st with worse hand. I agree with you slow play oop on a wet flop is bad. thx. it really help. and thank for tell me what is meh.


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Don't have much to add other then I'm stoned and that made me lol. Thanks.

More generally...

meh

informal
exclamation
1. expressing a lack of interest or enthusiasm.
"Meh. I'm not impressed so far"

adjective
1. uninspiring; unexceptional.
"a lot of his movies are … meh"

Hand 1: call the min-raise and hope for 9 or K, if it doesn't come hope he min-bets the turn as well. Don't be surprised to see Q9, 79, J10, 88, 99, JJ based on your read of villain. We're drawing between 6-8 outs against this hand so more than enough odds to call the extra 15bb, recalculate the % based on his turn bet and see if the call is right there as well. Loose passive villain x/r'ing unlikely to fold to a shove.

Hand 2. I like 2/3 - pot c-bet here. c-bet > x/r > x/c. I don't like to check this flop and give flush draws free card, same reason why I have x/r > x/c.

Hand 1: on the flop
1.cold-call and then shove
2.cold-call and then cold call mini riase
3.cold-call and then fold
4.2bet cbet and then call shove

which one is better?

Hand 2 is clear. thx.


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lol thanks for your help. I am a Chinese. now I see what meh is. ：）


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Don't get me wrong I have alotta respect for people who've learned other languages, but this made me lol again. 2 for 2 OP, keep it up and gl.

Don't get me wrong I have alotta respect for people who've learned other languages (4 years of Spanish classes and I retained 0) so not making fun of u, but this made me lol again. 2 for 2 OP, keep it up and gl.

Yeah thanks for your help. I check MEH in dictionary but it gives me a strange explanation. I do not want to miss any thing when people reply me, so I just ask. Lol, I immediately understand "meh" when he tell me. It also make me lol. Thx anyway.


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How do you have HUD stats? Are you recording every hand?

I got a live action tracker app called donkey tracker（and it stop selling in app shop）

it got vpip/pfr hud（i really want 3bet hud）

I use it mainly for unknow players. As I already got 100-200 hands vs reg.

and it is good for killing time.（but after 3hours I normally stop upload and be focus on preflop action and tells.）

the price was 0.69 dollor. It is one of my best +ev decison when I play live SSNL.

I also recommond live players to buy a bankroll tracker（or session tracker）app.


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^ sweet I can finally add something with a little content here. I agree with the suggestion of using a bank roll tracker type app for live play. I've been using poker analytics, the free version; pretty sure there's a version you can buy that boasts more features. Very easy and convenient to keep accurate stats.