1/1 home game.

Hero(320$) playing tight and aggressive..has the image of bluffy or spewy sometimes

Villain1(400) plain OMC has a fold button
Villain 2(190) playing him for the first time..seems pretty tight passive..on to the hand

Villain1 opens utg for 8, I have a sizing tell on him and I range him on the top bracket of jj+ AK as I have seen him limp upto tens a lot of times

Villain2 flats MP

Hero button gets 6c7c.. Based on my read and with stacks being deep I wanted to call this hand against OMC.. Would have folded anything around 100bbs eff..

Flop(26$) 6s 4c 9c

Villain1 leads for 18$ Villain2 flats

Hero?

Do I raise here or?

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Villain 1 may be capable of folding an overpair either here or on the turn. We are close to 50% equity if he does decide to get it in on the flop anyway with such a hand and we don't think he ever has a flopped set.

Villain 2 may actually fold some hands that beat us like 9x/77/88 yet call with flush draws which we are actually ahead of.

Seems a good spot to raise for me.

That was My thought process too sir.. Villain 1 hand is face up.. I was worried about villain2 here cause along with the hands u mentioned, he could also be drawing for a better flush...

I raised it to 75.. Villain1 folds.. Villain 2 shoves 150.. Another 75 to me..

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I would call sometimes and raise sometimes on this flop, either is OK. Having V2 shove over is the worst case, but since V2 can't have a pair+flush draw I think you have to call given those pot odds.

The big question is, do you want the flush to come in or are you trying to dodge it? It could be either here. Villain may have flatted a big flush draw hoping you flat behind or he gets to draw cheaply. He may have flatted with two pair/set hoping to get more money later in hand and realizes he needs to shove when you raise.

WP sir, I even thought sizing was perfect.

Obviously V2 shoving isn't ideal but I expect you are still a favorite against his range of flush draws/sets

Exactly what I was thinking myself.. Is a set ever Flatting the flop? Since I had no reads on him I was actually finding it hard to range him.. But given the fact that I had to jus call another 75 I was more inclined to call..


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i would rather call in this spot because you still have implied odds in your favor in multiway pots with position. plus its harder to make two people fold so FE goes down

I would never consider calling in this spot unless I'm absolutely positive that Villain never plays a draw this way, and I'm never positive.

On the turn, if a blank comes, you won't be getting correct odds to draw if the Villain shoves, but if you fold you could be ahead. If the turn is a club you could be drawing dead, or he could have a set or just the ace of clubs.

Your implied odds are horrible.

Reasons we play sc is for spots like this.. I don't think implied odds are terrible against Villain 1 as I could clearly range him to overpair.. Villain2 flat and then.shove on top of raise is the confusing part..

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Question:

What would you suggest OP do if V2 elects to raise the OMC bet otf to lets say 60, what would say his range would be then?

Always, raising this flop, you have a slight equity edge over a range of JJ+ and AcKc, and if you can ever get better hands to fold, it's a huge win:

Board: 946
*******Equity*****Win*****Tie
MP2****50.04%**50.04%***0.00%*{ 7c6c }
MP3****49.96%**49.96%***0.00%*{ JJ+, AcKc }

As played, obviously you have to call V2's shove, pot is ~$270 so you are getting over 3.5 to 1, so even if V2 shows you a set a call is correct.

Thanks a lot for this sir.. I did call..Villain2 showed set 99s.. But am happy that I made the right call mathematically


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A set shouldn't be flatting here. However, it wouldn't be that uncommon either. If he is paying attention he knows OMC never has any draw but the flush draw and that is unlikely. He can flat and hope to get money from over pairs on turn or river. Heads up or on a dry flop it is often a better play then raising.

However, you can have a lot of possible draws here. In addition to the flush draws, there are a lot of low straight draws that you could have. So villain should be raising.

V2 shoving sucks.... Without running the calculations call it off and hope to hit your 9 outer.