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Old 12-06-2014, 12:30 PM   #1
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1/1 deep flopped str

V1 (~500) - TAG. bets value hands and sometimes very tricky but good in reading hands. OK player and was winning most pots against me all night and showing 2nd pairs and bluffs.

V2 (~900) - whale but winning today and a little distracted by his mobile.

HERO (~600) - solid players who mixes and balances range but more on the tighter side. Hero's image is a a little dented for I checked folded a lot of flop and gave up on the turn, damn AK/AQ I lost a lot tonight... people just calls anything so I just c/f most missed flops.

we are deep and players are limp calling a lot and calling any flops with equity and bombing turns mostly.

limped all the way to hero and calls with 35s CO, I cant remember but we are like 7/9 saw the flop.

FLOP (~8) 764r
checked to V1 who bet 10, V2 called, I raised to 50, V1 called, V2 fold
I mostly show strength on the turn but was gambling and semi bluffing a lot tonight and the table is aware I playing LAG more than TAG tonight. so I decided to raise here hoping they flopped a set or 2pairs or overpairs... we are so deep so I raised planning to size up hopefully with a river shove and charge draws and peelers.

Turn (~125) Kd bringing diamond FD
V1 checked, I bet 65
his call on the flop is a little weak, I expect him to raise there if he has a strong hand. I don't think he has FD now and he will not call me with a naked 5 on the flop with that action. maybe he has overpair scared of the str draw or probably put me on a monster already so I bet half pot not to scare him.

River (~260) Ah
he donked 65... on hero, villain is holding his chips but roughly around 350-375 behind.. He can have 2pairs, Adx doing a blocking bet but I still think he doesn't have the nuts here and very hesitant for I showed strength.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:05 PM   #2
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Re: 1/1 deep flopped str

200/call
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:08 PM   #3
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Re: 1/1 deep flopped str

I like the overbet raise OTF. You flopped the second nuts when lots of sets/2 pair can be out there, and you're super deep, so you need to pump the pot a lot to get stacks in.

Turn is too small, imo. I'f they'll call an overbet raise OTF (esp V1 who overbet donked to open the flop action), they'll call $100 OTT with anything that's calling $65. I presume only one called based on pot size OTR, but which one?

Shove for value OTR, imo. It's not a huge bet. It's not even a PSR. I don't see him folding a set here. We may lose a bit of value against his 2-pair range, but I doubt 2-pair is calling much of any river raise. If he flopped the nuts, oh well.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:18 PM   #4
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Re: 1/1 deep flopped str

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Turn is too small, imo. I'f they'll call an overbet raise OTF (esp V1 who overbet donked to open the flop action), they'll call $100 OTT with anything that's calling $65. I presume only one called based on pot size OTR, but which one?
V2 whale folded flop. good point on maybe I could increase the bet since the turn is in a way relatively a safe card.

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Old 12-06-2014, 01:27 PM   #5
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Re: 1/1 deep flopped str

Duh. I can't read.

As for turn, it's more than a relatively safe card, it is a very safe card that may have given V a BDFD to let him pay more, but otherwise changes nothing (unless he thinks you can have raised K7 OTF, which seems super unlikely).
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Old 12-06-2014, 02:44 PM   #6
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Re: 1/1 deep flopped str

Bet bigger on the turn, shove river

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Old 12-06-2014, 09:10 PM   #7
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Re: 1/1 deep flopped str

Im definitely not folding here and if he has the nuts i would have felt it OTT.

I thinking of raising around 200 so that he can still call or probably induce a reshove but im thinking more of if he can call the 200 he will most likely call the shove if he has a set (although i would have felt this one too)..
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Old 12-06-2014, 10:20 PM   #8
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Bet bigger on the turn, shove river

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Old 12-06-2014, 10:32 PM   #9
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Re: 1/1 deep flopped str

I prefer a raise to a limp in this spot. We will most likely have position otf and sizing a raise to create a HU or 3 way pot wouldn't be a disaster at this depth.
Limping hands like this can put us in tricky spots. In large multiway fields we can rarely be comfortable when we flop a flush draw and flopping trips will carry RIO when there is heavy action.
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Old 12-07-2014, 10:07 AM   #10
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I prefer a raise to a limp in this spot. We will most likely have position otf and sizing a raise to create a HU or 3 way pot wouldn't be a disaster at this depth.
Limping hands like this can put us in tricky spots. In large multiway fields we can rarely be comfortable when we flop a flush draw and flopping trips will carry RIO when there is heavy action.
I don't think so. limping here with speculative hands are very profitable being so deep.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:33 AM   #11
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Re: 1/1 deep flopped str

your turn bet is terrible

edit: terrible in that it is too small
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Old 12-09-2014, 01:48 AM   #12
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Re: 1/1 deep flopped str

Thanks for the responses. I should have bet turn more next time.

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