V - (Late 20's Mexican in oakland A's hat, matching vest and fake Ray Bans) initially thought he was a decent LAG. He was raising/3betting with relative frequency and taking multiway pots down postflop with large C-bets. After seeing him for 3 orbits, it was evident that he was just a drunken gambooler with no finesse. First person on whom I've ever called clock.

V had a stack around $500 but spewed it away until it was 70ish. He open shoved a short stack (for I believe the third time in an orbit) from EP with 96o and was called and doubled up by a mouthbreather two seats to my left with J8o.

H - cripplingly card dead for hours. Table changed, but rationality returned, so came back. This was a dream table to pick up a hand, but not one you wanted to bluff often. Although I've raised light and c-bet, I'm seen as a nit by anyone paying attention (maybe 3 ppl).

Very Bad LAG (UTG+1) with about 450, Mississippi straddles

V (UTG+2) makes it 40 to go with a stack of about 170. He's made ridiculous preflop raises before.

2 Folds

H (HJ) with about 230 behind. Has AK

CO is tight and straightforward with around 175.

Mouthbreather (BTN) has about 200.

SB is a gambling (but not reckless) 50's asian lady with 450ish

BB is an old Arab man with no real sense of the game (maybe 100)

UTG is an empty seat of a player who is both tight and bad passive. His stack is irrelevant

If I had confidence in my MW game I'd call. From this armchair with a rye and ginger I'd call, live I'd spaz shove.

Take from that what you will.

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Ordinarily I'd say shove, but with this many terrible villains, calling might be better. Nice problem to have that choice. No other pre option imo.

Nah.
$125, call a shove.

Folding is off the table ldo

I choose between open shipping or calling and trying to get it in OTF if we hit.

I would for sure put a heavy 3bet probably a shove to give hell to QQ,JJ and TT. Or call and pray to either hit TPTK on the flop and shove there or miss the flop and still shove to give hell to any other AK, AQ. This way you neutralize QQ,JJ,TT and any other AK that most people play them for a drawing hand. Probably 3bet and shove the flop is the most effective with the most money profit.

That's why is so important to play AK very aggressive as per Bill Hubbard (AintNoLimit) concept.

shove, not close

I have ideas about the apparent merits and limitations of each decision. Since I got few responses detailing the motivation of each action, I'd like to hear at least brief rationales from others if it's not too much to ask. Thanks

call - more monies potentially, sometimes we don't get to realize our equity

jam - we can't make a postflop error, we see all 5 cards

Both shoving and calling must be +EV. We can either play a hand that plays well multiway in a bloated pot vs. a bunch of droolers or we can pick up a nice pot uncontested or we can GII good vs. their range.

If you think you have a significant post-flop edge, I think calling is probably best. As mentioned above though, you avoid the chance to make mistakes by shoving. I personally probably ship here and call on BTN.

The fold equity we create by shoving is generally more valuable than any postflop advantage we think we have

Our equity edge is not huge unless we have villain dominated

Also, putting in this much of our chips with the subsequent spr shouldn't generate huge +ev opportunities, if anything the lack of initiative may increase the number of errors we make

^ this is pretty much what I was thinking.

H shoves, CO folds, Mouthbreather calls, folds to V who tank calls, announcing that he couldn't fold getting such good odds.

Board J 8 5 x A

V turns over J3

Hero shows AK

Mouthbreather announces: I got the flush and tables KQ

None of that really matters though. Obviously shoving and raising ~100 are basically the same play except for if and only if some black monotone low flop lands (right?). My next question is if it went call, call and we go 3-way with the same to V's, what is our plan (on this particular flop)? Obviously we are second to act, but what's the plan?