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12-25-2015 , 07:34 PM
Merry Christmas everyone.

Hero is a 0.5/1£ cash player.

The villains here are very loose and passive pre-flop (vpip 50 pfr 10)
Normally villains will 100% cold call with 30% of their range, so open with AQ,AJ, TT-77 is hard to laydown villains AXs KXs and nearly any pair. So when Hero open in EP1 and EP2, there is only 5.76% and 8.24% that nobody call. In addition, normally there are 3 players will cold call Hero’s open. Hero need against at least 1-2 players oop.

Now my EP range are:
open: JJ+, AQ+, AJs+.
limp-call: TT-22, KQs-T9s,ATs-A9s
limp-raise: AA(90%) KK (70%)

Question 1: should I just fold AJs-A9s, 77-22 pre-flop when average stack is smaller than 150BB? Should I limp-call (or always open) them when average stack is 150BB-350BB?

Villains here are rarely fold their SB and BB, and their re-steal range is 3-3.5%.
Now I normally 4BB steal in LP if all fold to me, and get 2 callers. Then I c-bet with 7.5BB, I need at least 38% to make it break even if I c-bet 100%, which means every villains fold to c-bet must higher than 61.7%.

Now my steal range is Ax+,22+, K8o+,Q9o+, JTo+ (31.2%) but I also like limp J9o-97o,T9o-89o,T9s-65s,T8s-75s.

Question 2: should I stop limp in LP, and add these range to steal range? Or just fold them? What x% is best steal range in this situation?

Because Villains like to see the flop very much, so they limp a lot. Some times Hero got A7o-A4o, K7s-K2s, K9o-K7o, these hands are to weak to open 8-9BB, and they are easily dominated by AT, KQ…but fold is also an uneasy decision because the odds is good. Some times I really want fold them but also want to see if I can hit 2 pair or trips in flop.

Question 3: should I just fold these unvalued hands pre-flop?

Thanks for any discussion.
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12-25-2015 , 09:35 PM
Sorry didn't make it clear.
Question 3 is when Hero get A7o-A4o, K7s-K2s, K9o-K7o in LP and sb.
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12-25-2015 , 11:01 PM
Tis a really big question and any answer will depend on exact table conditions anyways. So take this with a large grain of salt.

1: I would chuck the weak suited aces in EP. You will get raised too often and they mostly need folded to any raise. Small pairs you can limp/call or open. I would have a fair number of folds also, you can only habitually play them at really weak tables.

2: Depends heavily on how stationary your villains are. If you can habitually bluff them post flop then you should open up your stealing range some. If they are stationary post flop then you need to tighten it up. You can't be stealing that wide every chance you get unless the table is super weak/tight, so steal some and limp some.

3: If there are a bunch of limpers and the BB is passive you can limp suited kings and suited 2 gappers from the SB some of the time. For the most part though just fold them.
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12-25-2015 , 11:27 PM
Speculative hands OOP, I'll overlimp them like a boss with effective stacks 100-200BBs. If unopened when it gets to you, depends on too many factors to type, but I'll usually muck them at 150BBs and open them if deeper.

It is best not to have a blind stealing range in these game conditions. As you note, what you really have is a flop steal range.

Still fold the trash.
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12-26-2015 , 12:05 AM
1. I think I will tighten it up, maybe just fold AJs-,66- in a aggressive table (effective stacks 150BBs-), and when I get effective stacks 150BBs-), I will start to play A9s+ 22 (open 50%, limp-call 50%)
2. I think tighten it up will make me easy is post-flop. The player here are very stationary.
3. I think you are right. suited kings and suited 2 gappers are have more value than other speculative hands, especially when effective stacks 150BBs+, limp off suited trash oop is -ev.

question 4: one more problem is TT-77 and AQo (in EP), it is hard to play oop when they are miss in flop with 3 callers. It is -ev to just check-fold, or when I cbet (most of time is semi-bluff), I still need fold to turn/river float when facing any bet when I miss.

I think fold pre is not big deal, but it will make my ep open range to tight, and other players will easily read my ep range.


Thank for your reply.
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12-26-2015 , 12:08 AM
Thank for your reply.

Fold the trash is a good advice, I will do it.

And as your reply, the effective stacks is the most important thing. I will fold weak EP hands when effective stacks are 150BBs-.

question 4: one more problem is TT-77 and AQo (in EP), it is hard to play oop when they are miss in flop with 3 callers. It is -ev to just check-fold, or when I cbet (most of time is semi-bluff), I still need fold to turn/river float when facing any bet when I miss.

I think fold pre is not big deal, but it will make my ep open range to tight, and other players will easily read my ep range.
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12-26-2015 , 07:13 AM
I raise those hands OOP for value. Just stop auto c-betting them post-flop. It is allowed to check OOP, and the factors of whether we should c-bet are yuuge, but generally I'm still c-betting on favorable boards if I got 2 or less caller, and otherwise not.

I would encourage you to read the Concept of the Month on c-betting and also not to put so many broad questions in one thread. Broad questions are hard to answer well, and a plethora of them in one thread basically guarantees fewer and shorter responses.

Also, I note in post 5 that you went from loose-passive PF conditions to aggressive. This is very different and the ranges/positions for those games will in no way resemble each other.
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