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Old 07-22-2015, 10:07 AM   #176
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Diamond Lil's in Seattle only spreads LHE. Always a good crowd when I was there for a week last year.
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And hopefully soon to be Massachusetts. I'll gamestart if I have to, with $1/hand rake ofc.
I have a feeling some great games would pop up in the Boston area with all the bored money around. Maybe some real mix games can go, rather than just the OE mix at FW.
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So I'm going to be in Vegas for a few days, staying at the Aria hotel. Looking forward to this rare opportunity to play some live LHE. Would appreciate any guidance as to tipping etiquette (I read some of the Tipping containment thread but it's a mess). I doubt I'll be playing higher than 2/4. Cheers.
The only place you'll find steady 2/4 is the Orleans.
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Old 07-22-2015, 11:39 PM   #179
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Oh so that's what C bids was referring to in my 77 hand. I had no idea what he meant.

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Old 07-23-2015, 03:41 PM   #180
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So I'm going to be in Vegas for a few days, staying at the Aria hotel. Looking forward to this rare opportunity to play some live LHE. Would appreciate any guidance as to tipping etiquette (I read some of the Tipping containment thread but it's a mess). I doubt I'll be playing higher than 2/4. Cheers.
The heads up limit machines (with no rake and peek) at the Bellagio are more fun and you get all you can drink complimentary alcohol !

If you are used to 2/4 online you'll probably want to kill yourself of boredom after 45mins at a 2/4 live table.
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Old 07-23-2015, 05:30 PM   #181
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That machine has no soul.
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Old 07-25-2015, 10:45 PM   #182
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not sure if this is the correct thread, i assume this is one of those low content threads where you dont have to make a new thread for the question you're asking?

Just wondering what kind of winrate is common amongst micro stake grinders at the higher limits, such as $0.25/0.50 and $0.50/1.00?

I've been grinding $0.10/0.25 and should be moving onto $0.25/0.50 in a few days so long as i don't run into any severe downswing, although i doubt it, bovada has been treating me well!

I'm trying to move up ASAP! Hopefully in a couple of months I will be 4 tabling $1/2. Trying to make enough to replace a part time job but i think 4 tabling i still need to move up a bit more in stakes, maybe 3/6+ right?
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Old 07-27-2015, 01:00 AM   #183
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Just get another job IMO.
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Old 07-27-2015, 01:32 AM   #184
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Whoops posted this in Small stakes and didn't get a response, so...

I'm on a Mac...anybody using Odds Oracle (pro poker tools download) for equity calculations? How do you like it?

Does anyone use Combonator? I realize that's only for Windows.
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Who can afford a Mac? Combinator is good.
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Old 07-27-2015, 11:31 AM   #186
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not sure if this is the correct thread, i assume this is one of those low content threads where you dont have to make a new thread for the question you're asking?

Just wondering what kind of winrate is common amongst micro stake grinders at the higher limits, such as $0.25/0.50 and $0.50/1.00?

I've been grinding $0.10/0.25 and should be moving onto $0.25/0.50 in a few days so long as i don't run into any severe downswing, although i doubt it, bovada has been treating me well!

I'm trying to move up ASAP! Hopefully in a couple of months I will be 4 tabling $1/2. Trying to make enough to replace a part time job but i think 4 tabling i still need to move up a bit more in stakes, maybe 3/6+ right?
If it's a main source of income I agree with leroy just find another job. If it's extra money for a vacation, sure it could work.

Can you get 4 tables going? At the times I play, I never see more than 2 or maybe 3 tables going.
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Old 07-27-2015, 11:44 AM   #187
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no its not my main source of income, just looking to try and replace a part time gig i do a couple of days out of the week. Yah most likely it will be 2-3. Of course I can also ways mix it up and that's a guarantee of 4 table action; x2 $1/2 & x2 $2/4

in any case my ultimate end goal is to reach the top LHE stakes on Bovada, ie. 30/60
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Old 07-27-2015, 03:25 PM   #188
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The heads up limit machines (with no rake and peek) at the Bellagio are more fun and you get all you can drink complimentary alcohol !

If you are used to 2/4 online you'll probably want to kill yourself of boredom after 45mins at a 2/4 live table.
Sometimes it's fun to play "count the mistakes". Not to mention the fun one has when they can check raise the field on the turn.
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Old 07-27-2015, 03:30 PM   #189
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no its not my main source of income, just looking to try and replace a part time gig i do a couple of days out of the week. Yah most likely it will be 2-3. Of course I can also ways mix it up and that's a guarantee of 4 table action; x2 $1/2 & x2 $2/4

in any case my ultimate end goal is to reach the top LHE stakes on Bovada, ie. 30/60
The quickest way to do that is to never withdraw. That means keeping your PT job if you need the income. Grinding out 1 BB/100 is hard, and at Bovada, your max expectation for the # of games running is like 3 BB/hour ($6 an hour at 1/2). More realistically, you may half that, as it doesn't take a lot of other winners in a game to severely affect your WR.

It's good that you've been winning. How many hands? Really, your goal with $1/$2 should be to get to $3/$6 as fast as possible, if your goal is to make any noticeable money (a 3 tabling reg could make up to $20/hour if they're strongly beating those games, IMO).
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Old 07-27-2015, 03:44 PM   #190
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Haven't been able to purchase the acepoker tracker for my HEM license yet so i'm not too sure on the number of hands. But I've slowly been on the up and up for about 2 months

I started at $0.05/0.10. Won 200bbs for $0.10/0.25, and I'm close to having 200bbs for $0.25/0.50. Rinse and repeat with a few ups and downs

Good thing is i can replenish my roll. I might add a bit more to it between $0.50/1.00 and/or $1/2 depending on how good the player pool is. Just trying to get out of the micros asap really.

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Old 07-27-2015, 11:53 PM   #191
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afford? I'm a computer fish but I didn't think they were that overpriced?
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:05 PM   #192
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    Cake Poker, $0.02/$0.04 Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37030694

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 J
    Hero raises, BB calls

    Flop: (4 SB) 9 5 9 (2 players)
    BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls

    Turn: (4 BB) K (2 players)
    Hero bets, BB calls

    River: (6 BB) 6 (2 players)
    BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls

    Results: 10 BB pot (0.5 BB rake)
    Final Board: 9 5 9 K 6
    BB mucked 3 4 :: :: and lost (-5 BB net)
    Hero showed 8 J and won 9.5 BB (4.5 BB net)



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.
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    Old 07-28-2015, 12:08 PM   #193
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      Cake Poker, $0.02/$0.04 Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37030694

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 J
      Hero raises, BB calls

      Flop: (4 SB) 9 5 9 (2 players)
      BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls

      Turn: (4 BB) K (2 players)
      Hero bets, BB calls

      River: (6 BB) 6 (2 players)
      BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls

      Results: 10 BB pot (0.5 BB rake)
      Final Board: 9 5 9 K 6
      BB mucked 3 4 :: :: and lost (-5 BB net)
      Hero showed 8 J and won 9.5 BB (4.5 BB net)



      Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.
      Sick value, IMO.
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      Old 07-28-2015, 01:38 PM   #194
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      Good thing is i can replenish my roll. I might add a bit more to it between $0.50/1.00 and/or $1/2 depending on how good the player pool is. Just trying to get out of the micros asap really.
      If I was you, I'd be shot taking gamestarting, but that's just me. I've ignited modest bankrolls more than a few times doing this, and I've made some modest cashouts a few times doing this.

      Currently busto with online poker though, go figure.

      I wrote an article a while back with a section on shot taking for the beginner's forum digest:

      https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...014-a-1468457/
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      Old 07-29-2015, 01:44 AM   #195
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      Vegas trip report: didn't play a single hand of poker. I sat down at a 4/8 half-kill game at the Venetian that didn't get started, and that was the closest I got to doing any gambling at all. At least the pool party was fun.

      Don't like Aria - too swanky, dark and lacking in the "wow this is ridiculously over the top and absurd" factor. Bellagio was like a breath of fresh air in comparison.
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      Old 07-29-2015, 02:36 AM   #196
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      just had a mini-heart attack.

      Playing 2/4 online and using my HUD to cover my stack. Decided to take a shot/playing under-rolled b/c of guy who was sitting at the table alone.

      Played HU with him, stacked him for 20 BB's, he snap re-buys 20 BB, (rinse/repeat) and then we keep playing till the table fills...but at the same time I'm playing .5/1 O8.

      After the HU villain leaves I'm just getting sucked out on and value owned for about 100 hands. Well towards the end of the session (500ish hands), I notice in my O8 game my stack didn't auto-top off when it got lower...I freak out and think I might not be breaking even in my 2/4 game and potentially just spewed off X-hundred number of BB's

      LHE gets down to HU with player and I think I have a pretty big edge...and I chicken out and down want to have to figure out how to get more $ on the site so I quit .

      Turns out the online site was going down for maintenance and forcing players out/not letting them rebuy .
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      Old 07-29-2015, 04:19 PM   #197
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      Vegas trip report: didn't play a single hand of poker. I sat down at a 4/8 half-kill game at the Venetian that didn't get started, and that was the closest I got to doing any gambling at all. At least the pool party was fun.

      Don't like Aria - too swanky, dark and lacking in the "wow this is ridiculously over the top and absurd" factor. Bellagio was like a breath of fresh air in comparison.
      Shoulda went to the Orleans. 2/4 and 4/8 aplenty. Omahaha too. Unimpressive casino, but at least you would've had poker to play.
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      Old 07-29-2015, 04:29 PM   #198
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      Should've sat some Bellagio 20/40. Maybe could've won some of the funds I left there by managing to play like 20 WTSD / 30 W$SD
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      Old 07-29-2015, 04:36 PM   #199
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      +1

      Bellagio 20/40 is a gift of limping and bad play. Plus, adding the money I left there to what jdr left behind... plenty of free $ in the games.
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      +1

      Bellagio 20/40 is a gift of limping and bad play. Plus, adding the money I left there to what jdr left behind... plenty of free $ in the games.
      Poker is so much less stressful when you can just call down TT on J63hh-5o-3o. Less profitable than being able to fold once check raised on the flop, but less stressful

      I probably made this calldown a dozen times, figuring eventually someone would check raise for thin value or on a draw or something. Nope, AJ every time. At one point I was playing in a game w/ MacauBound, rodeo, Mason Malmuth, and some unknown asian kid who turned out to play fine, but after that, it was OL $0.25/$0.50 ridiculousness.

      Here's an example of a guy who held over me like crazy:

      Someone raises and he cold calls and someone 3 bets, and this reasonable playing kid 4 bets the BTN. Awful steamed up southerner calls BB, 5 ways.

      Flop AKx checks through.

      Turn J BB bets nemesis calls BTN raises (Reasonable player 4 bet pre, checks AKx MW, raises J turn. JJ? JJ). They call.

      River 7 Nemesis x/r and gets called in both spots and shows...77.

      Kinda wish reasonable player went for the three bet vs the overcall for maximum soul crush.
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