Sorry, I want to clarify that we should be raising the limper.

And while raising the flop is usually good, there's opponents where raising the flop would actually be pretty bad. Part of what makes raising a good play is when we can win the pot without a showdown. Against preflop nut peddlers, there's really no FE to be had.

Post flop, you should barrel all streets, because you have zero showdown value, and stand the absolute most to gain possible by getting another hand to fold. Even getting KT to fold the river is a huge victory. You shouldn't have any combos worse than this that makes the showdown.

If you're not bluffing here, then you're never bluffing, which is only a good strategy if they call way too much, in which case you can give-up the river. If they are calling w/ bottom-pair and a busted gutshot straight for example, or ace-high unimproved, then you can wave the white flag on the river. On the turn though, you still have tons of equity, as well as the flop, so you're value betting.

Assuming the river is 4 handed, I'm never bluffing here.

An interesting dynamic occurs on the river though when the first two players have to worry about the last two players. So, you can squeeze the other two into a tough spot. They might fold the bottom and mid pairs fearing the original limper has a jack, for example.

Also, didn't realize it's the cut-off, and thought it was the button. But, I still prefer raising pre to calling. From one more spot to the right, then I start to think about limping along with more hands to get more limpers.

That could happen, but I don't think bluffing is profitable in 4 way pots vs any types of reasonable strategies. As a general rule without reads, my range for betting the river in 4 way pots is (value).

Think it is only 3 handed once B.B. net the flop?

Most ppl at low limits are going to call w/ any piece in a large pot therefor an attempted bluff is usually wrong. In this case one player is showing strength and bluffing is out of the question.

Is anyone really afraid of getting 3-bet on this flop?

No. If it happens it's not terrible but it's likely not to be 3-bet bec the low limit players holding an over-pair get scared when faced w/ unexpected action.

Why are we afraid of being three-bet on this flop? We have just short of 50% equity. As long as there is a passenger along for the ride, we profit from every bet that goes into the pot.

Responding before reading the replies.

Flop is a snap raise.

How I play the turn would depend on how the rest of the flop action goes. If everyone calls and you still have three opponents on the turn, I think betting or checking is reasonable. I'd lean towards betting because you still have lots of equity and if no one reraised on the flop it's unlikely they will raise on the turn.

If someone reraises on the flop, I would cap it. With this action though, I would be more inclined to take the free card on the turn unimproved.

What if the flop is Jd8h5d?

Interesting question. Neither Jd8h5d or Jd8h6d changes our equity, but they do disguise our straight if the 9 comes in. So you might be able get an extra big bet or two versus a set with the 5 or 6, or non-nut straight but this is countered with the action you might be able to get from a bare 10 on the subject flop. Since both scenarios are rare I doubt there is an appreciable difference.

I'd say the 7 is better because the set may still get sticky, especially if the 9 hits on the turn and they would get swept along when the battle erupts between the Hero and bare T.

What's PPT?

Is this a spot where we call 100% of our continuing range on flop? Regardless, I definitely like a flop call in this hand to avoid the likely scenario where the PFR 3-bets the flop after c-betting and we lose our customer. The times our customer calls 3-bets doesn't make up for it IMO. Also calling the flop lets you raise a lot of turn cards with perfect position.