450$
Also, my biggest win on a hand...

ahahha. yer i hate that. I mostly only play bj when:

[x] I'm drunk
[x] I've won (money to burn) or lost (tilt ) lots playing poker

It normally ends in me losing lots. $500 is (actually it's higher now..) the table max and I've won/lost that many times.

Strange enough, I think it hurts more when you are drunk.

I imagine however, it would hurt even more if you are relying on the money for income.

I remember losing 3 racks playing 5-10 about a year ago at crown (75BB's), I took the last $125 i had on me, and instead of using it to get some Mc Donalds and then catch a cab home, i lost it in about 2 minutes playing BJ. Ah, good times. (added beat: waiting time at the taxi rank was around 1 hour, full of drunks trying to pick fights with each other)

cool (with the spike), I was like -- 25 mg of blow in a shot -> gambool

I guess I'm still a bit confused because you are sort of saying that you dont like casinos because they have bad busines models ... but I think Marchrons point makes sense (alhough I think that says more about human nature than about casinos ). After reading this thread I dont like casinos any more either .

In any event: greatest micros original thread evar, thanks so much for writing this, I'll send you a couple of cents on stars. It's M******* right?

carry on.

Between their undisclosed settlement, and

"Last year, Grosjean won a $400,000 judgment against Imperial Palace in a related case."

It seems like getting caught as an 'Advantage Gambler' is a +EV pursuit!!!

ORLY? I would NOT bet on that!

I suspect this pair have a set approach, that works for them, while a no name counter probably couldnt get a high priced Vegas atty to represent them for a %, and then get a big settlement from the casinos.

Nice post. Enjoying reading it and the thread.

Interesting thread. Good post, bella!

Before I started playing Hold’em last year, I had played a bit of online blackjack.
After getting familiar with lots and lots of betting systems (all the Martingales of the world) and basic strategy charts (wizardofodds ftw!), I searched for a beatable game. Beatable as in “casino edge is lower than the bonus you get”.
I had eventually found an online single deck blackjack game where basic strategy actually had a player edge, but the edge was so small (0.015% iirc) that variance would probably take you down anyway. I wrote a small java program to calculate millions and millions of iterations, just to find out what kind of roll it would take, and how much you could win playing that game. If memory serves me right, if you had a starting roll of 16000$, and bet the table max (100$) every time, you’d stand to make on average 10000$/month playing this game 40 hours per week.
Problem is: it’s blackjack. Every action you have to take can be read off a chart, which also means you’d be bored out of your mind after a day…

Well, at least I had made a bit more than a whopping 300$ playing online. Which is incidentally the same amount I started my Hold’em career with…

Haven’t looked back at blackjack ever since I started playing Hold’em though. BJ ain’t fun, it’s routine…

nice post bella...not that ill ever really apply any of it much. im assuming youll digest it...consider this an official nomination.

actually, i do play blackjack whenever partypoker ship me a few free bucks and by using the 'leave the table when you have > bonus amount' method ive probably taken $300-400 in profit just by opening a simple chart.

just read it - great post bella

i am a former card counter as well, so i do understand all things u talked about regarding barring and casino attitude to the players, at one point me and the husband sat down at a 'sbaro' place to eat some pizza and there was a security guy with a suit approching to us and i told to my husband:" i think we are about to be barred ...". this is how paranoid u get after playing bj.
me too have a love-hate relations with the gamnling concept after seeing all the poor ploppies getting drunk and losing so much money( by the way aren't we doing the same as the casino now when we play poker - taking advantage of the stupid and the addicts? a point for thinking).
about comps - for about 5 trips we made to vegas i got everything for free ( we were 2 weeks in vegas, saw all the big shows ,traveled in limosines, got a room at one of the big hotles and even got back some money for the flight ), all u need is to ask!
traveled all over europe and made some good money, and now lets hope poker will treat me as well.

Awesome post. However, it doens't seem to be currently possible to read the book Beyond Counting. The site doesn't have anything to say about 3 card poker online.

Not that I actaully care, but I hate it when my idle curiosity is denied. I guess the mystical secrets of beating 3 card poker are locked away for the time being.

I just sold my copy of the book on e-bay for 600$, that tells you how sought after that information is.

QFT

That is def the best 600th post I can remember.

post the .pdf version here LDO

I'll PM it to you for 300$ LDO

$450 loss on one hand of blackjack is good...back in my online casino signup bonus whoring days, my biggest one-hand loss was about $1,100. My biggest bust was going from $2,700 -> 0. I still made off with tons of $$$ after all was said and done...but that money still haunts me :-)

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Sick bump? How did this well not get more love. Required reading, imo. Thanks to Bob for linking in LC thread.

this wasn't my well, btw :P

This is her well, another great read http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/35...-boobs-908299/

Indeed.

Hi Bella, nice post.

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Bellatrix, GoaT?