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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
My raises were still getting multiple callers. I couldn't thin down the limpers. Every hand was going multi way.
You can't continue with aggression in most multi way pots.
One pair is almost never good. My hands hardly held. I'd raise with AJ and hit an ace and lose to A 4. I couldn't win many hands and bled away my 100 buy in.
In the JJ hand, since you were in position, my line against 2 villains would be to bet flop and bet turn, but then check back the river since by that point either they have a Q and are not folding or were on a draw and missed. I use that line a lot against 1 or 2 opponents when I have a pocket pair but an overcard flops. This line has the advantage of it looks exactly like the line you would take with AA, KK, QQ, AQ, so if they get into the habit of calling you down, you'll make money in other similar situations.
As for your comments about general aggression - you are usually not trying to push people out, especially preflop. They shouldn't fold since they are getting great odds (see my last post about you calling from the blinds). What you are attempting to do by raising is push your equity. Against 4 average plays, maybe AK will win 25% of the time (probably more). If you are going to win 25% of the time but you only have to put in 20% of the money, that's great - you should be raising and making bigger pots. That's how you win at the low limits - you should be more aggressive than others so that when you do win pots, they are bigger than pots the other players win in similar situations.
Question (to make you think a bit) - after 4 limpers and you are on the button, what are all the hands you would raise with?
Also, just because you raise preflop doesn't mean you have to bet the flop if you miss. With so many people in the pot, someone usually hits something, so only continuation bet with hands that hit the flop somehow (including when you flop a draw).