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Originally Posted by Biggle10
Why do you want to short stack? Maybe we can help you fix the reasoning. i.e. are you afraid of playing post flop and making bad decisions and are trying to get all in as fast as possible?
This would be good, OP. Whatever you're trying to accomplish, you can almost certainly accomplish it better without short stacking 4/8. (But I've done it at 4/8 when I was nearly out of ready cash and worried I was going to tilt.)
Theoretically I don't buy that it's "never a good idea" at any stakes but it's rare when it could be a good idea. At stakes where you can feasibly beat the rake, if you were somehow a poor postflop player who still understood preflop hand values, you could probably eke out a tiny win and sit in the game to learn how to play better. But in contrast, in NL (1) the reverse implied odds laid by bad players to good players are mitigated by short stacking (2) the blinds themselves are minuscule (3) the eventual best hand may be knocked out, benefiting the all-in player, which is rarer in fixed-limit.
One more case where short stacking is good. If I happen to have say 8 big bets UTG+2 and then lose a hand to have 3 big bets UTG+1, I'm not rebuying until my button for obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I agree with short stacking LHE being a bad idea. But the reason it can work in NL isn't because of fold equity. I used to short stack loose NL games, and I was certainly disappointed anytime I got a fold. I was looking for calls and to double our even triple up.
Often what you really want is a hybrid: someone opens to $15, call, call, call, you shove for $150 with AK, fold, fold, call, fold. Now you're in great shape, at least even with the caller's range with $45 dead in the pot.
But that's live play. Online, NLHE is much more a game of light 3 bet and 4 bet semibluffing, and pro short stackers can do this well.