+1, except that "elsewhere" really means "in the handful of tables where bona fide experts are playing."

Expert play is the exception, not the rule, in 99.9% of tables and probably 99% of where we spend our time.

"These California rolls are totally not Japanese."

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There's probably a lot of truth to that.

Having said that, it may also be that we are talking about two slightly different players. Your player is a LAG who is too LAGGy or not sufficiently skilled at adjusting to table conditions.

My player is fishier than that pre-flop. For instance, the people I think about might cold-call a UTG raise from a decent player with Q8 suited or 98 offsuit. And then play it reasonably enough postflop. Or maybe after 3 limpers he will call any two in the cut-off, even complete trash like 72 offsuit. This is why I say he might have absorbed some no limit strategy-- because these plays might make a bit more sense in a deep stack no limit game where you really can profit from trading mistakes a lot more than you can in limit.

That's LP, not LAG.

But post-flop they aren't. These guys I am talking about do all sorts of things correctly or creatively post-flop. They just call way too much pre-flop.

Happy September bitches!

So I sit down at a game, don't recognize any of the players...

Seems very quiet & passive...no one is raising preflop...I open a couple of hands, don't get to showdown as I take both with a turn bet. I've been there maybe an orbit and a half and get another great opening hand, JJ. A couple of folks limp to me, I raise, folds to V1 in sb who 3!s. UTG, who had limped, calls the 3, I call...I'm leery of making it 4 when I've been the only one raising, but maybe they just think I'm being frisky and are just pushing to find out...it's really early, let's see what happens.

Flop is AK5r, about as bad a flop for me as there is...V1 bets, V2 raises...time to fold my jacks! I go into spectator mode, V1 calls. Turn is a 2. V1 bets, V2 raises and is all in. V1 calls. River is T. V2 turns over T8o. V1 gets disgusted look and mucks.

V2 left the table about one orbit later. V1 stuck around, got really lucky several times so he continued to have chips to give to me for several hours...

Lost a rack and a half but brutalized obi_wang for 118 points in OFCP. Walking out of the Oaks a champion tonight.

I don't know if anyone has posted this before, but this is a very nice podcast by our own Death Donkey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmgCWwkS1zY

This is in 3 or 4 games of criss cross btw. Thank god you talked me down to playing for micro-stakes. You coulda been rich! Calli = OFC savant obv.

how many rounds per game? I just beat a guy for 215 points in a 20 round criss cross game. that was sweet

No i meant just 3 or four total rounds lol. Calli doesnt have the iphone app i dont think, so we just played pass n play and he demolished me every round for like 30 minutes. This even includes my flush/flush/55 hand and some other decent bonuses.

Lies. I was like hay lets play for 25 a point and you were like 25 cents mebbe lol and then proceeded to ask me whether the 3 card hand was the top or the bottom and i was like lol noob and then you decided to set a straight in the middle and try for runner-runner-runner full house on the bottom no wonder I mopped the floor with you.

Alternatively, I got really lucky.

Current status.

Me too, tailgating starts in 3 hours!

OH at work: "Ah, my phone is in Chinese mode." Instantly thought they left an OFC app running. That's not what he meant.

Degen thinking FTW.
Play any life OFC while in vegas?

Nope. I saw two people playing $5/pt at Bellagio. Was told that time in that game is ridic...like $40 per person per half regardless of stakes. I'm at OFC fish

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I just dipped my toe in the Bay 101 8-16 HK game for the first time. Holy. ****.

By the way, did everyone catch john mccain getting in trouble for playing poker on his cell phone during a Senate hearing on bombing Syria?

Whatzat mean?

Lot of chips on the table, lot of raised, multiway pots, potential for a big win as well as lots of tilt. Most of my sessions of late have been at LC, and the texture of the game is completely the opposite (short stacks, passive play, softplay between friends, jackpot mining).

Interesting piece in the NY Times on using AI/neural nets in heads up LHE bots.

Interesting that the bots are not trying to play GTO, at least if I understand the story correctly. But they are incredibly difficult to exploit.

Straight hustler