Hey PrGarland, welcome to the limit forum.
A little tough love coming for a hand that you played too passively and then folded incorrectly. You'll get it right next time.
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Originally Posted by ninefingershuffle
1.) high rake
2.) only two limpers
3.) low limit players don’t often go off
If our hero calls, this is a 5 way pot. That's fine for cheap set mining.
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AK3
Blinds check, bet from MP. Villian calls and I call. Blinds fold. Three to Turn. (4BB)
You have to raise this flop. It is literally your job. You are very likely to have the best hand, and they will call with worse. You really want them to improve to a worse hand and maybe put in more action with that. You have to feel that AA or KK is much less likely than random, because of the limped pot. You have the effective nuts. They're more likely to call a raise now, if they know stuff about pot odds.
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5 on Turn.
Original better leads out. Villian raises. I tank for a minute. I wanted to raise on the turn, but now I am a seeing monsters. What could he have: the sets-- AA, KK, 55 the two pairs Ax Kx 35, the st8- 24, or some other drawing hand like Ax or Kx. I fold because I am weak and confused.
Again, any help is appreciated.
Folding is a crime against mathematics.
You're telling me that AA or KK limped preflop. Just called a flop bet, and now is the most likely hand on the turn?
This list of hands is a list of monsters under the bed syndrome (MUBS). You forget A5, A3, combos, which are beloved by bad players everywhere. Also, K5, K3, which might be played offsuit, but loose players love suited K's. If someone can have limp/called AA (not that likely), maybe they slowplayed AK for maximum screwplaying? They limp AKo preflop because it isn't a pair. Flop the world, and get sneaky. Turn, low straight is scary so raise? There are so many combos of 2 pair+ that you beat that folding is terrible. You should have raised flop. You probably should raise turn. It is closer because terrible/passive players have put in a big street raise. I probably want one more raise to go in, so I raise it. If the villain smooth 4 bets, I just call down.
I wouldn't totally rule out AQ-AT and flush draws (especially pair + FD) when looking at combos. If a villain had a decent Axs, why wouldn't he raise the lone guy betting flop and turn? That would actually be good poker.
Last edited by DougL; 05-11-2019 at 04:44 PM.