8/16 LHE at Orleans 9 handed

1 player folds, 1 limp, next player raises, 4 folds to hero in SB with Jacks.

I would usually reraise here but I felt it would be 3 or 4 handed anyway so I just call. (Interesting decision A) BB calls, limper calls. I don't know any of these players.

Flop AA9 two suits. Checked around.

Turn T of a third suit. Checked to original raiser who bets and hero raises. (Interesting decision B)

Here I'm thinking if I get raised I can reliably fold for the same investment as calling the turn and river while maybe getting out Kings and Queens and definitely getting out KQ. If called on the turn by any of the three players I will check fold the river.

Did I play this well? I'll post the result later.

Definitely 3-bet pre. Doesn't matter if the two other players call or fold - you get value from them if they call, and dead money from them if they fold.

Are you raising for value or as a bluff?

Which worse hands will call you?

What better hands will fold?

Raise pre. If you call, x/c flop. If you call flop, x/c turn. Raising looks like a fishy soooted Ax hand. And besides that its hard to peel that flop with weird coldcalls preflop.

3 bet pre and then let's talk about whether to c-barrel the turn.

3 bet pre flop.

As played, turn is interesting.

Don’t post the results. They don’t matter for the purposes of this forum. They only make responders biased.

He already said he's not raising for value, but for bluff and protection against against hands with outs.

But honestly I don't much like either goal here. Seems more likely that villain has an ace than a big pair or KQ.

How frequently do you think you see KK, QQ, or KQ here? It seems like an oddly specific hand range to be focusing on.

I'm far more inclined to just call on the turn. If I can get to showdown for 1-2 bets, I think that's much better than not getting to showdown for 2 bets.

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What pocket pairs are ok to just call pre with in this spot?

There's no fixed rule. It would depend a little bit on the raiser and the tendencies of the other players in the pot.

With the only action being limp, then raise, I definitely 3-bet TT and probably also 3-bet 99.

Who would check an ace on the flop after raising preflop and all three opponents checking?

AK to trap

Interesting decision A isn't interesting at all, and frankly it's terrible. Why would you willingly offer the BB and limper a great price here? You need to be 3 betting. Calling could be ok if you were the BB.

Raising the turn could be okay but not for the reason you state. Original raiser is repping a hand like KT/QT here frequently and we can potentially get called down by those hands. Or we can check raise to face naked spade hands with 2 cold and get value from a Ks range-stab (let's pretend the board is 3 spades).

However, what we don't do is raise to see where we are at like you seem to be doing here. KK/QQ isn't folding here, and if I'm wrong it's frankly a shocker. And check raising the turn to check fold to a bet on the river is really really bad. How did you "see where you're at" if they bet the 3rd suit card and call the raise? There's bluffing in poker. In limit hold em, there's even value betting with a worse hand here. There's times to bloat and float, but when you're in a spot where the original raiser checks an AA9tt and bets a T of third suit turn, that's not the time.

Oh and FWIW, the most likely hand I'd show up with here on a third spade is like KT and KQ so if you xr turn against me, you should 100% value bet any non T/Q/K/ river and never ever ever consider folding a card that isn't one of those. Obviously people are weirder and trappier but they'll still have this stuff as well.

A lot of players at these levels love to slowplay the flop, especially if it isn't likely to have hit anyone else.

agreed ^^
and especially there.
many players love the delayed turn raise with trips or sets.
this hand is so much easier to play with a 3 bet pre.

Raise pre. Bet flop. Call down on anything lower than a J. I dont like ops line.

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