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A very loose passive player limps in CO, A Tag raises on the button, I am next to act in the SB.

What is the play assuming the BB is tight with these?

A8o
A7s
K9s
KJo
9Ts

What if the BB was super loose and likely to call a 3 bet?

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05-19-2019 , 02:44 PM

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checkraisdraw

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3bet a7s and fold the rest.

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05-19-2019 , 02:56 PM

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DrHoldemPhD

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If low rake game I 3! A7s and T9s. KJo is tempting but I prefer that to heads up, T9s is easier to play 3-way imo high implied odds lower reverse implied odds.

High rake game I dump all and wait for better because overlay from BB is going down the tubes.

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05-20-2019 , 10:00 AM

#2305

rodeo

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Originally Posted by mongidig

Fold
3 bet
3 bet
3 bet
3 bet

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06-03-2019 , 11:44 PM

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reaper6788

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You're in CO, BTN is an unknown. Table is pretty loose-passive. Think typical passive 4-8 or 8-16 table.

Three limpers in front. How low do you go with off suit connectors and one gaps? I've been called out as nitty over in NC thread for only going down to JTo connectors.

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06-03-2019 , 11:53 PM

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chillrob

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I generally don't play offsuit connectors under JT either, mainly because that's what the SSHE book told me to do.

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06-04-2019 , 12:39 AM

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ninefingershuffle

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With three limpers, I’d raise qj and kt off suit

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06-04-2019 , 12:43 AM

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rodeo

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Originally Posted by reaper6788

Sounds good to me.

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06-05-2019 , 12:11 PM

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asmitty

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Originally Posted by reaper6788

T9o

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07-01-2019 , 01:48 PM

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mongidig

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Originally Posted by ninefingershuffle

With three limpers, I’d raise qj and kt off suit

I'd over limp these. Loose passive players are limping with better plus I'm not loving bloating the pot with hands like these.

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07-01-2019 , 01:55 PM

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mongidig

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The low jack opens. He is a very agro and good lag/tag. He caps a lot in HU, 3 way pots. He is probably opening top 20% here. He likes to pound it post flop and bully players. He probably sees me at weak since I have wiffed on a bunch of boards and folded.

It is folded to me on the button with 77's.....The BB is at minimum calling and often caps as well...I've seen him cap A8o. He is super laggy pre and post and super showdown bound. The SB is a TAG.

Given this dynamic, do you change your normal approach to the situation?

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07-01-2019 , 04:48 PM

#2313

checkraisdraw

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I would 3bet here easily. Maybe consider leaving the game if you can’t comfortably 3bet this?

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07-03-2019 , 11:01 PM

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reaper6788

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Still 3bet. But I imagine at a certain point if BB is coming along with 100% anyways cold call + evaluate flop makes sense. I'd he's not playing 100% I still 3 bet cuz he'll definitely play wide getting 5-1.

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07-04-2019 , 07:37 PM

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rodeo

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Originally Posted by mongidig

I'd over limp these. Loose passive players are limping with better plus I'm not loving bloating the pot with hands like these.

Good. I agree

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07-07-2019 , 11:42 AM

#2316

gr26

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agressive st8forward utg 19/15 raises, CO and SB calls, i fold A2o on the BB.
How bad is it?

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07-07-2019 , 01:14 PM

#2317

checkraisdraw

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Seems good tbh.

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07-07-2019 , 02:13 PM

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reaper6788

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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw

Seems good tbh.

I agree. You're dominated too often here, playing this hand post flop multiway will be painful.

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07-09-2019 , 10:56 AM

#2319

NittyOldMan1

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Originally Posted by gr26

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agressive st8forward utg 19/15 raises, CO and SB calls, i fold A2o on the BB.
How bad is it?

standard

T7o and A7o are the tough decisions

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07-09-2019 , 11:05 AM

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NittyOldMan1

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Originally Posted by mongidig

Two loose regulars limp in ep, A lag/tag raises in the CO, I am next to act on the button. The blinds are tight.

What do you do with Ad4d
Ad7d
Ad9d

3 bet all of them and change seats. don't play to the left of lagtags. i don't mind cold calling A9s though. cold calling A4s and A7s and playing without initiative seems really bad though, so if you aren't willing to 3 bet then fold

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07-09-2019 , 11:13 AM

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NittyOldMan1

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Originally Posted by mongidig

not really

your 77 is still very strong here and will win UI enough. and with position you won't have as many tough spots.

I also doubt BB lacks a range he calls for 1 bet and folds for 2

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07-21-2019 , 10:45 AM

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mongidig

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UTG is new to the game but seems to be a TAG. UTG+1 is very loose and passive. I am UTG +2. The rest of the players include one TAG, one Lag, A tight passive, and 3 loose passive regs.

UTG opens, UTG +2 calls. If I choose to call I think there will end up at least 5 players. If I choose to 3 bet I might get it 3 way but It could just as easily end up 4 or 5 ways or more.

What would you do with these....88's 77's 55's 22's?

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07-21-2019 , 11:37 AM

#2323

King Spew

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Most likely 4 or 5 to the flop....why wouldn't you set mine? If you raise PF..... you think you can win a multiway with a CBet? (me neither)

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07-22-2019 , 09:54 PM

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SetofJacks

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I'd 3-bet the 88, call or 3-bet the 77, call or fold the 55, and fold the 22.

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07-23-2019 , 01:25 PM

#2325

hardinthepaint

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In what circumstances are we 3-betting next in with mid-high suited connectors, i.e. JTs-98s? Just on the button? Against all MP/LP opens? Never? Are we ever 3-betting next in with worse, i.e. 87s, 76s?

FWIW, I 3 bet pretty liberally with everything down to 87s against everything but in EP open, in which case I only 3 bet JTs and sometimes T9s, but I feel like this may be a leak.

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