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I agree, however, I don't think he is always 4 betting and I think the tight BB folds a decent amount of time.

Do you think this is an appropriate 3b absent the reads? I'm trying to dial in on an appropriate range that will take advantage of the random hands but not go overboard.

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11-10-2017 , 10:43 AM

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20/40 live 9 handed.

Folded to me in HJ...I have Qd9d. This is a standard open for me. The CO cold calls a ton and the button is very laggy pre flop. The blinds are tight regs. Should I tighten up a bit and ditch this hand?

I think QdTd is too strong to ever fold here. Qd9d feels like I am not giving up much by folding with those two to my left.

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11-10-2017 , 10:47 AM

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20/40. 9 handed. I don't chop.

I've posted 10 on the button and there are two BBs. It's folded to me and I have Js8h. The SB is pretty loose the BB is a TAG.

Am I supposed to raise here or just complete?

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11-10-2017 , 10:48 PM

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I’m raising

With the A6o hand. Not sure. I’m not great with those spots

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11-11-2017 , 06:53 AM

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I would think the J8o is a raise if you don't chop and you've posted already.

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11-11-2017 , 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mongidig

Seems like a fine raise? Obviously don't love going to the flop OOP but if you're comfortable post-flop then it seems fine.

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11-12-2017 , 06:20 AM

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A6o is a fine 3-bet there from the cutoff. With this kind of player behind you, you should be trying to pick up on playing/folding tells. If you know he's gonna fold it's a snap 3-bet. If he's playing, you can fold. If he's giving away nothing I would raise and take my chances.

I wouldn't even considering folding Q9dd under those conditions. I would definitely raise Q8s also so I guess Q7s is where I would wonder if I'm being spewy.

If I had a small blind on the button and it folded to me I would raise... after pretending to look.

I don't mind creating these tougher spots with wider ranges. They have definitely made me a much better postflop player.

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11-12-2017 , 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mongidig

This is a raise w/o the 10 in the middle for value.

Also good post by TDK. Constructing a range here you should steal w at least your raising range if there was no straddle and it was folded to you.

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11-12-2017 , 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight

I agree. I've been out of the game for a while so I've been a bit sloppy pre flop lately.

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11-12-2017 , 02:57 PM

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Correction, J8o is a raise, but not a raise w/ 10 on the button. J8s is a raise regardless.

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11-13-2017 , 04:37 PM

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Very loose and passive player limps in CO. TAG button raises, folded to me in BB with 56o. Is this a call?

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11-13-2017 , 05:00 PM

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I'm a liberal BB defender so yes.

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11-14-2017 , 12:32 PM

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20/40 live 9 handed.

I post a half kill in the HJ. UTG opens with top 10% range. What do you do with the following hands? AJo, 77, ATs?

There is one loose passive behind me. The others are all bad regs.

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11-15-2017 , 12:50 AM

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I 3-bet all of those with the kill.

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11-15-2017 , 01:08 PM

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I 3-bet all of those with the kill.

Thanks!

I'm trying to figure out at what point do we just call with our holding. Obviously we are not folding much being in position. AJo has about 44% equity vs utg. ATo has 40% equity. Assuming no other specific reads is 45% still about the magic number needed to 3b pre in position?

It feels like we should be 3 betting here with most strongish hands but at what point are we just spewing money against too strong of a range?

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11-15-2017 , 01:48 PM

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I don't like 3! Ajo from a kill
When we 3! At we can easily fold out aj or another at from the blinds. 3! Aj might fold out another aj but in that case utg is probably way ahead anyway
If the blinds are overfolding that does change the calculus

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11-15-2017 , 03:05 PM

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Very loose and passive player limps in CO. TAG button raises, folded to me in BB with 56o. Is this a call?

I fold.

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11-15-2017 , 03:19 PM

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I don't like 3! Ajo from a kill

Neither do I.

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11-15-2017 , 04:42 PM

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For those of you saying you don't like 3-betting AJ in the kill pot... you realize that he posted the kill, someone raised, and half the table has folded, right? I would snap raise AJ and AT. Considering calling A9o, but probably raising a decent amount of AX suited hands.

3-betting down to KTs, QTs, JTs and probably 55... 44 I still might raise. I'd mix in some other suited connector hands as well to three bet.

I feel very comfortable playing postflop in position and since this pot is not looking to go off multiway, I'd prefer to play it heads up at this point.

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11-16-2017 , 12:01 AM

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A solid TAG opens in the CO, you are on the button with...KTo, QTo, and JTo..are you 3 betting any or all of these?

Assume the blinds are tight.

You have a TAG image.

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11-16-2017 , 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight

This is a good point about the pot not looking to go multiway. What if we are the killer UTG +1? Would you be more likely to call the lower end of your range mentioned above?

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11-16-2017 , 01:30 AM

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Its all-ready quite expensive for blinds to participate. Clearly 77 is much less enthusiastic for multiway participation but does aj really mind that much (especially with favorable position) We are hardly ever playing an a hi for showdown value on river. 3! At a range disadvantage and frequently face a 4! Does not seem especially desireable. Having some strong hands in our calling range is valuable.

Also like I posted earlier, weaker aces tend to benefit more from the additional card removal (of medium strength ax and weak pocket pairs folding) from raising

I don't think 3! Ajo is awful but I think against solid players calling is better.

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11-16-2017 , 01:11 PM

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A solid TAG opens in the CO, you are on the button with...KTo, QTo, and JTo..are you 3 betting any or all of these?

Assume the blinds are tight.

You have a TAG image.

Assign the solid TAG a solid TAG cutoff opening range. How do these hands fare against it?