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Nah, for once I set over set'd him on A82.

And of course he muscled his way to showing down post for 2 bets when he raised A82 and I just called fearing the freeroll.

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06-30-2017 , 03:05 AM

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dead..money

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what did she have? BTW, i know this will lead to a funny discussion where everyone says results don't matter, except that they do.

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06-30-2017 , 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dead..money

what did she have? BTW, i know this will lead to a funny discussion where everyone says results don't matter, except that they do.

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06-30-2017 , 09:13 AM

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TheHip41

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The actually hand played out differently than what we were arguing about. The lady checked the flop. We bet, she checkraised. I'm assuming OP called down and lost.

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07-01-2017 , 12:40 AM

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Midstakes game with a half-kill, 6 players

Folds to you in the small blind where you have k-rag offsuit, bb yet to act (half-kill acts last)

Opponent defends widely. What is your move?

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07-01-2017 , 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

Midstakes game with a half-kill, 6 players

Folds to you in the small blind where you have k-rag offsuit, bb yet to act (half-kill acts last)

Opponent defends widely. What is your move?

**** it, I always raise.

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07-01-2017 , 02:59 AM

#1457

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I assume from your post that two players remain in addition to you: BB and half kill player. In which case, this is an easy raise.

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07-01-2017 , 03:43 AM

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I put a lot of calls here w A and K because straddler is over aggro.

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07-01-2017 , 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

Midstakes game with a half-kill, 6 players

Folds to you in the small blind where you have k-rag offsuit, bb yet to act (half-kill acts last)

Opponent defends widely. What is your move?

I'd fold.

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07-02-2017 , 05:51 AM

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Michael Davis

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So I have a small blind that's really like a 1/3 blind and two guys who act after me, one who defends a lot and then another who is going to be looking at 5-1 with position? I'm folding Ax here, wouldn't even think about Kx.

Is the half-kill the bb? Because if so I'd raise.

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08-10-2017 , 07:13 PM

#1461

C Put 6163

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4/8 game half kill. Kill in play so the hand is 6/12.
10 handed

Hero: 46s in SB
UTG limps, kill is MP and last to act, HJ limps, CO raises, BTN cold calls. (7 SB + blinds = 8SB)

Hero???

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08-10-2017 , 07:20 PM

#1462

King Spew

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Table dynamic, C Put? Likely to see a PF cap?

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08-10-2017 , 07:28 PM

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So you're only in for $2, and asking about calling $10 more, not closing the action, from the worst position, with 6 high? Seems like the easiest fold in the world to me.

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08-10-2017 , 08:00 PM

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C Put 6163

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Originally Posted by King Spew

Table dynamic, C Put? Likely to see a PF cap?

I had been at the table for about an hour. Cap is 4 raises. I had seen several 3 bets but no 4 bets or caps. The kill button had previously 3 bet at least 2 hands before, but they were not unusual 3 bets. The BB had twice before 3 bet my raises (he had AK both times).

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08-10-2017 , 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chillrob

So you're only in for $2, and asking about calling $10 more, not closing the action, from the worst position, with 6 high? Seems like the easiest fold in the world to me.

That's the end of that questions. Nailed it here.

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08-11-2017 , 01:18 AM

#1466

C Put 6163

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Originally Posted by TheHip41

That's the end of that questions. Nailed it here.

The table was playing fairly loose. PF, on average had 5-6 players. I was guessing the equity in a 64s hand against 6-7 others to be about 15% Odds to call were 42:10. Implied odds were likely between 48:10 (UTG calls) and 62:10 (BB, UTG, and Kill button call). Of course, if hero hits the hand with trips, a straight, or flush, implied odds will be even better. On the other hand, my calculations did not account for the rake that would reduce the odds. So, at game speed, this was not an easy decision for me.

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08-11-2017 , 01:22 AM

#1467

DonkeyOnTilt

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I think the 64ss in the SB is a fold but I generally loosen up pre when the kill is on.

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08-11-2017 , 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by C Put 6163

You can't just assume everyone calls and hey I'm getting 6.2-1.

People will 3 bet and 4 bet

The point is. You have garbage in the Sb and basically have nothing invested.

64s is a good hand on the button when 4 people limp in front of you. Not when it's a kill and there is a raise and you have the worst position not closing the action.

If somehow you were getting 6.2-1 and your call closed the action, even on the small blind. That's a slightly better situation.

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08-11-2017 , 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHip41

You can't just assume everyone calls and hey I'm getting 6.2-1.

People will 3 bet and 4 bet

I don't know where OP is playing, but it's 4/8. It's not like a given that people are going to be aggressive.

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08-11-2017 , 11:41 AM

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Yeah, playing 64s in this position is overly simplistic thinking of "hey I've a good multiway hand". Your immediate price is bad, there's a ton of people who can reopen action behind you, and you're in the nut worst position. Hands that you're trying to make straights and low flushes with play poorly OOP. Give me 33 here and the decision is much closer, because it's much easier to get value with that when we hit and not get into trouble when we miss.

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08-11-2017 , 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jdr0317

I'm calling all pairs in the OP spot (or 3 betting)

If the OP has JTs. That's different and I'm probably calling.

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08-11-2017 , 09:08 PM

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leavesofliberty

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Toss the lower pairs, imo.

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08-11-2017 , 11:38 PM

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leavesofliberty

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Low pairs are almost impossible to play w/o the set,

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08-12-2017 , 12:31 AM

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jdr0317

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33 flop Q84. We can just fold because our hand is worthless.

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08-12-2017 , 12:36 AM

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TheHip41

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Originally Posted by jdr0317

33 flop Q84. We can just fold because our hand is worthless.

Unless we are getting 18-1

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