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Originally Posted by TheDarkKnight
And your reply implied that calling all the way down with 99 on AK9 would be missing a single bet instead of, say, 4-5 bets.
I wasn't implying he should be on tilt. I was asking a question. Really I'm just trolling someone for saying "what's the point of putting someone on an exact range and then not utilizing that information?" and then following that up by saying he would call down with 99. Based on what he just said, he should be folding the flop. Obviously you shouldn't fold, but it's quite alright to toss in a raise with 99 on AK9 even if you think AA/KK are highly possible hands for villain. Afterall, it is like a 6-way pot - we aren't playing heads up here.
TDK, what do you put villain's range on? Raising 99 is going to fold out a lot of stuff. You may not get to the river even against QQ, JJ, or TT. You certainly won't against 88-. Gutshots might call a flop bet and fold the turn. Other stuff, suited connectors, etc., are dumping it on the flop.
You have identified only one hand, AK, that will give us SOME value (not a ton, as even there the villain will figure out sooner or later that we have a set, and of course villain has 4 outs to beat us as well). That's it. Meanwhile, if OP is right that the actual range is AA only or AA-KK, how many bets do you propose putting into the pot to figure that out?
Bear in mind, your answer to that question affects how much value you get from AK. If you are calling down from a 3 bet you are also calling down from a 3 bet with AK and aren't getting as much value as you think you are. If you are putting in another raise, well, prepare to get re-raised again and value-own yourself even more against AA and KK.