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Originally Posted by daveopie
Playing in the low limit games, I often run across players who are extremely passive. I can't be 100% sure of their preflop raising range, but for some players it is exactly AA/KK. My question is - what do you do with a good hand when one of those players raise?
Exploit them in some way. Also, you're using "good hand" as an absolute. KQ is a good hand, in an absolute sense. It particularly hates a villain who has KK+. Once you have this information, you should correctly adjust. Let's say you saw AA in the villain's hand, isn't knowing her hand worth something? Is it enough?
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First, a nice old lady who had not raised in the 2 hours I've played with her raises from MP, and I have TT right after her. I chose to raise, but if she really is that tight with her raises, does anyone fold? Or call and hope to bring in others?
2 hours is about 60 hands. You put her raising range on KK+ why? If your answer is she has shown QQ and AKs that she limped, that's one thing. If she did that and then wondered aloud how someone who raised JJ, that's more. If she just was a normal limpy player who didn't raise in 60 hands, that's another.
Do I fold? Based on a small sample, that's insane. If she flashed AA, I'd think about a ton of other things before folding. If the table is loose, calling and expecting the pot to go 7 ways could be expert.
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Second example, UTG playing 50+% of his hands, but rarely raising preflop, raises and it folds to me in MP - I 3! with AKs. Thinking back on the hand, I'd be surprised if his range is much wider than QQ+. AKs has to be a 3! (which I did), but what do you do with other hands close to that?
I think you need to consider stuff. I've played with tight former props who do really only raise with QQ+. How does AKs do vs QQ+. Also, by isolating yourself against a hand range that strong, what do you gain? It could be that 3 betting is the best play, and it could be that calling is better. It depends on things outside your exact hand.
Other hands? Think about KQs in this spot or QJs. Compare them to 87s and 98s.