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03-07-2016 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Live 20.

Tight Older Asian guy opens UTG...I figure him for top ten percentish maybe slightly wider. The next guy to act is an older bad reg who calls(cold calls, limps, st forward, no hand reading, etc.) he does have a 3 bet range pre and it's pretty tight. It's folded to me in HJ and I have KdQd. The CO, button, and SB are solid TAGs. The BB is average reg.

How do you proceed here?
Even though I'm behind the UTG's range, I think 3 betting makes sense here with the bad player in between. With so many tight players behind me, calling doesn't feel right. The UTG will probably not cap if it ends up 3 way because that's how it's done these days, so I am not fearing value owning myself. If he does Cap that gives me information.
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03-07-2016 , 12:20 PM
live 20

5 limps and it's up to us in the SB. Are you raising your Ace suited hands? How about 9Ts?

I don't necessarily fear any LRR's.
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03-12-2016 , 03:34 PM
Sometimes I want to complete the sb and then fold to a raise.

Example from last night:

20-40 game ($10 small blind)

2 bad players limp in. I complete K5o from sb. Somewhat reasonable regular raises from big blind. I feel like his range is weighted pretty strongly towards big hands, I don't think he raises something like 9T suited here. Other 2 call and now I want to fold.

I know the price I am getting is the same as what it was before so it seems silly to fold. But now I feel like I am much more likely to be dominated than I was when I initially completed.

What do you guys think about this?
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03-12-2016 , 04:00 PM
I agree in general, there are a few hands I would call half bet with and then fold to a raise. Even more I used to do this with in a structure where sb is 2/3 of a bet. But K5o I think is and easy fold the first time no matter how bad the other guys are.
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03-12-2016 , 06:46 PM
If the good regular isn't raising hands like T9s, then raises from him are pretty rare, right? That means that it is more correct to make a "loose complete" than in a spot where you're going to correctly be facing a good bit of pressure. I'm pretty allergic to the K4o and Q6o hands of the world, but if you think you're getting great odds to see 3 board cards and the BB is only raising premium hands... don't really mind completing.
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03-12-2016 , 06:57 PM
I like the complete with anything but 93o-, 83o-, 72o, 62o.

Then I might fold stuff like 94o, 84o, 73o if raised, but I'm calling with anything better.
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03-13-2016 , 09:52 AM
Three of them. I am so far removed from the online game that I can't even put together reasonable ranges preflop. It feels like I'm playing by the seat of my pants and hoping what I think I remember is correct.

All three below from 9 handed live 20/40 with time (so no rake considerations).

A good pro raises UTG, folds to me in the CO and I have (this happened twice):
KQo
AJo


Another situation which I am more sure about but if I am making the post anyways may as well ask it. A fairly loose aggressive player preflop, especially nearing the button opens in CO, we have QJo on button.

Thanks!
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03-13-2016 , 10:05 AM
Good morning Pope,

I'd fold all three of those hands.
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03-13-2016 , 10:36 AM
Live 20. FR.

A solid (usually tight) player limps UTG. One or two people (not sure now if that makes difference) limps too. HJ ("normal player") raises. CO folds and Hero is at BU with KQo. Shall Hero fold, call or 3-bet the raise?
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03-13-2016 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Three of them. I am so far removed from the online game that I can't even put together reasonable ranges preflop. It feels like I'm playing by the seat of my pants and hoping what I think I remember is correct.

All three below from 9 handed live 20/40 with time (so no rake considerations).

A good pro raises UTG, folds to me in the CO and I have (this happened twice):
KQo
AJo


Another situation which I am more sure about but if I am making the post anyways may as well ask it. A fairly loose aggressive player preflop, especially nearing the button opens in CO, we have QJo on button.

Thanks!
I'd fold both hands in the UTG situation.

I would 3 bet QJo on the button against the CO. I'd 3 bet QTo as well if the blinds are tight.
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03-13-2016 , 12:16 PM
I fold the first 2 but think the QJ vs cutoff is a slam dunk 3 bet
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03-14-2016 , 01:05 PM
KQo > AJo vs UTG open, but both are close folds. Against a loose / foldy opponent go ahead and attack.
QJo easy 3b BTN v CO
Don't fold KQo in a big field. Raise and flat are ok.
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03-14-2016 , 01:47 PM
9 handed Solid Tag UTG open, Tag mp 3!, loose and bad SB calls (any suited, any Broadways, pair 99-, some off suit connected) ...we are BB:
What hands should we just flat 2 bets here?
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03-14-2016 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LHELHELHE
9 handed Solid Tag UTG open, Tag mp 3!, loose and bad SB calls (any suited, any Broadways, pair 99-, some off suit connected) ...we are BB:
What hands should we just flat 2 bets here?
I think flatting your whole range here makes sense even if it is 4 way. Given the strength shown by the two Tag's your continuing range is gonna be pretty narrow as it is. You get info from the UTG if he chooses to cap or not. I think it is likely you can get in a CR on the flop given your position. If you have AA's or KK's you may get a lot of action post flop on low boards if they have a worse pair. There is definately some good deception value here.

I'm thinking 99's+ AQs+AKo. I don't think you should go much lower than this since UTG could still cap behind you and you are looking at some very narrow ranges from the TAG's. It's nice to have the fish in there padding the pot.
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03-16-2016 , 11:50 AM
Live 20..My image is TAG.

Situation 1) Just looking for your default play here assuming you have no reads. It is folded to hijack who limps, you are next with Ah4h... What is your play?

Situation 2) No read on Hijack but the players behind you are all loose and tend to coldcall raises loosely. Hijack limps, you are next with Ah4h....What is your play?

Situation 3) This time the players behind you are all tight. Hijack limps, what is your play with Ah4h?

Situation 4) Tight passive limps UTG in a 9 handed game, it is folded to you on the button. SB is tight, BB is loose, you have Ah4h....What is your play?
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03-16-2016 , 12:01 PM
I'd raise em all but the last one, which I'd call.
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03-16-2016 , 06:46 PM
6max
Co openraise (unknown)
BU call (bad , can open limp on bu,etc)
Me SB J8s
BB unknown
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03-16-2016 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
6max
Co openraise (unknown)
BU call (bad , can open limp on bu,etc)
Me SB J8s
BB unknown
My knee jerk is to fold in a 1/2 structure getting 5.5:1.5 but call in a 2/3 structure getting 17:4. The extra equity buffer in the latter helps w/ being OOP for the entire hand.
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03-16-2016 , 07:02 PM
My quick thought was to fold as well.
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03-16-2016 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
My quick thought was to fold as well.
One big issue w/ calling this hand in general is that it may be difficult to realize equity, given how cold callers often play. Like we flop middle pair, PFR cbets and BTN raises with all sorts of hands we beat (T8-, any PP that isn't a set, A and bottom pair, gutshots), but cold calling a ton of flops w/ mid pair OOP is kind of dirty feeling.
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03-17-2016 , 11:40 AM
live 20

CO..posts...He is extremely laggy pre, tends to go into call down mode post and tends to get to the river a lot. I'm sure he is raising 100% pre flop in this situation.

SB...Very good Tag, he is aware that I will have a very wide 3 bet range here.

BB...loose passive reg, defends his blinds always if its just raised and will call a 3 bet more than he probably should.

Folded to the poster who raises, I am next on the button.

How are you adjusting pre flop given my reads that the CO gets to showdown a lot and it's not a super high percentage that I get this HU?
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03-17-2016 , 03:49 PM
Let's see, you have a guy who just put in the first two bets with <random> and you have position on him. You have the SB who currently stands to have <random> and the BB who is loose and currently has <random>. You have the white disk in front of you. We're not bluffing at least 2 of the 3 villains because they'll get to the river with any two cards, or close enough. Starting to sound like a stove problem. Things are actually better because we get to decide if it is 2.5BB or 1.5BB to get to showdown, after the flop.

Pretend to look and re-raise?
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03-17-2016 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
My quick thought was to fold as well.
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
My knee jerk is to fold in a 1/2 structure getting 5.5:1.5 but call in a 2/3 structure getting 17:4. The extra equity buffer in the latter helps w/ being OOP for the entire hand.
Thx i was folding as well, even J9s but i guess JTs is an easy call and probably J9s right ?
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03-17-2016 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
Let's see, you have a guy who just put in the first two bets with <random> and you have position on him. You have the SB who currently stands to have <random> and the BB who is loose and currently has <random>. You have the white disk in front of you. We're not bluffing at least 2 of the 3 villains because they'll get to the river with any two cards, or close enough. Starting to sound like a stove problem. Things are actually better because we get to decide if it is 2.5BB or 1.5BB to get to showdown, after the flop.

Pretend to look and re-raise?
I did the stoves and know how certain hands compare to the random ranges. If I knew the blinds would fold every time that would be one thing. Certainly there needs to be adjustments based on the increased probabability that one or both blinds may be coming along here. Just curious what should be the bottom of our range here. Obviously we are 3 betting.
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03-17-2016 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
6max
Co openraise (unknown)
BU call (bad , can open limp on bu,etc)
Me SB J8s
BB unknown
Snap call and I think folding is pretty bad.
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