If we have every discussion of playability where you get to assume the much harder to play hand and the easier to play one cause you to make about the same number of mistakes, then let's just ignore playability as a factor.

Also, isn't it a bit unfair to admit
and then try to win debating points with this example?
My point is about hands that are very difficult to play being not quite as good as you'd think in close spots. Low PP tend to cause you difficult post flop situations where the answer boils down to guess and call down with 6th pair or guess and fold. Comparing the hand to some hand you never play seems like spewing words rather than debating the point.

I guess it also comes down to your formulation of EV. If you just use h/c equity, you're a long way from the true EV of a hand with more money behind.

Now you're putting words in my mouth and I don't particularly appreciate it. The mistakes are definitely more costly with 55 compared with ATo, but these mistakes are present for every hand except for the nuts.
I'm not trying to win anything. I just wanna talk poker. No I don't think it's unfair at all. It seems to me that you think that "easier to play" = higher ev. I was simply pointing out that it's very untrue.
That's fair, but this view only acknowledges the downsides. What about the upsides? Sometimes we flop a set and will own 80%+ of the pot. Sometimes it checks down through the river and we will win more often with 55 when this happens.

This is very true. I don't claim to have a definitive answer for which hand has a higher ev for 3 betting here preflop and anyone that does is just talking out of someplace other than his or her mouth.

It's all just a mood point though because I'd 3 bet 77 and call the rest with the information given. With a good read that the opener sucks and that the coldcaller is wide and capped, then I'm gonna 3 bet everything on the list with the exception of T9s. I wasn't there though and I don't have that read, so I'm gonna call both 55 and ATo.

What would be the worst suited connector you call with?

Is KJo a call?

I would assume ATo is bottom of our range Axo wise.

How low do you go with a suited Ace?

Thanks for your feedback!

My answers would change a lot depending on the tag on the button and the tighties in the blinds. Getting 3 bet by jdr on the button when I hold 76s would be the suck, and don't get me started on four way pots.

I rather have T9s then 55 or ATo for me anyway

i'd probably call all of them.

Strong LAGTAG opens HJ. I'm playing on my phone so I lack a HUD.

You have JTs CO. Does it make a difference that there's a major loosey goosey in the BB? Does a certain image (I've generally been quite tight in our history) weight things any?

If the loosey gooseywas on the button I would just call. In this situation, you have a great chance to have position on both. You can use your tight image to your advantage against the Lag/Tag and your position to play well against both.

I would 3.

Live 9 handed.

UTG...has just joined the table and has raised about 8 hands in a row. He has given up quickly on about 5 of them. He has shown down 77, 68s, AJ.

UTG raises, folded to me in HJ...the players to my left are fairly tight except for the button who is farly loose and has cold called two bets frequently.

What do you do with these hands...Ac8c, AJo, 66, KJs.

I 3! All of them

8/16 Kill game, 5-handed with the killer UTG. Killer is possibly the most passive player I've ever seen; never raises preflop and has missed river value bets. He might bet TP if it's checked to him HU. So he is predictable and gives free cards OOP, but the downside of this is you end up value-owning yourself when he limps AQo. SB and BB would defend blinds often when the kill is off, but tighten up considerably with the kill. UTG checks his option, CO folds, and Hero has A2o on the button. Is there enough upside to raising to balance the downside of postflop trouble?

So you have two foldy people behind and someone who has worse than <random> in the pot? First card you look at is an A, just throw out a whole bunch of chips. The "down side" is that he won't punish you the maximum when you make 2nd best. Taking the expensive part of expensive 2nd best off the table is good for you. Predictable is good. I'm missing any bad.

Against random, A2o is a 55-45 favorite. It's not a standard btn open for me, but total fish + nit blinds = why not?

FR. 2 weak limps, nit raises, folded to me in sb with T7s. bb is tight.

what about T8s?

I would fold both with a NIT raising plus bad relative position.

I raise

I did. But when vil made his only checkraise in 4 hours on an A-4-5-9 turn (in a kill pot no less), I questioned whether I was pushing the gas pedal too much. All my chips are belong to.

A good opportunity met with a bad result. If you had KK's on the turn you would be in the same situation.

A2 is a great hand to check back on an A45 flop

Live 9 handed 20/40

4 limpers, folded to me on button. What are the weakest Axo, Kxo, Qxo, Jxo hands you would be over limping with?

A8 K9 Q9 J9

That's exactly the bottom of my range. I may throw out k9 and Q9 if the limpers are tight.

Live 20 9 handed.

UTG...super loose, agro on the flop with draws and made hands, pretty straight forward from the turn onward. Chases over cards, gutters, etc to the river. Doesn't semibluf raise big streets. Will bluff river but not often. He will only 4 bet pre with a strong hand.

BB....semi tight reg. cold calls too much. Will fold here if I three bet and sometimes call.

Both players see me as tight.

UTG puts out live straddle......folded to me in SB..I have K8o..I have an ok equity edge against two random hands..37% to 31%...however, I am oop to a showdown bound player. Would you still 3b here? If not, how big woukd your K need to be to feel good about it?

I'm thinking KTo...maybe K9o.

Table has been playing like an SSHE reader's dream. UTG+2 limps, HJ raises, we're on the button.

What is our coldcalling range if we're supremely confident we're going to get a 5-way pot for 2 bets?