If you can hand read extremely well and know what board textures are good for you to be bluffing (sometimes for three streets), I believe raising is pretty high variance but profitable.
If you are mostly trying to play tight/solid poker and show down the best hand, then folding is the best option.
If you can hand read extremely well and know what board textures are good for you to be bluffing (sometimes for three streets), I believe raising is pretty high variance but profitable.
If you are mostly trying to play tight/solid poker and show down the best hand, then folding is the best option.
If you can hand read extremely well and know what board textures are good for you to be bluffing (sometimes for three streets), I believe raising is pretty high variance but profitable.
If you are mostly trying to play tight/solid poker and show down the best hand, then folding is the best option.
No. Rake always wins when edges are small and when you play 100% of hands you are already giving up a lot if equity preflop even to the 50% of hands players.
Let’s say you have pocket deuces in this same spot. What’s your best play?
I folded 33 in this spot recently.
In a similar spot yesterday had 44 against an unknown player CO limp and tight blinds so I raised, got HU bet the ragged flop and turn only to get CR'd.
Normally an obvious fold but decided I wanted to see what he was limping from the CO so paid him off, he had limped with Q6s and flopped 2p.
No. Rake always wins when edges are small and when you play 100% of hands you are already giving up a lot if equity preflop even to the 50% of hands players.
I’m not entirely convinced these spots are unprofitable in a 4/8 game but if I were coaching someone I would want them to fold.
Normally with 22-44 I’ll fold but occasionally I’ll limp if the lineup is right. If I flop a set great, otherwise I mostly fold. Folding, limping, and raising in this spot is probably pretty close. I think the problem with raising is most of the time the flop isn’t favorable and I of course feel obligated to bet the flop and I’m increasing how much I will lose. These spots don’t come up very often and 4/8 plays differently than the bigger games and the rakes are very different.
I’m not entirely convinced these spots are unprofitable in a 4/8 game but if I were coaching someone I would want them to fold.
I think DC misread your post and thought you were suggesting raising 100% of hands, rather than saying you'd be raising the types of hands described by killians "100%." FWIW I think 76s is close in a high-rake environment and 65s would be a fold. Also agree with folding 44-22.
Normally with 22-44 I’ll fold but occasionally I’ll limp if the lineup is right. If I flop a set great, otherwise I mostly fold. Folding, limping, and raising in this spot is probably pretty close. I think the problem with raising is most of the time the flop isn’t favorable and I of course feel obligated to bet the flop and I’m increasing how much I will lose. These spots don’t come up very often and 4/8 plays differently than the bigger games and the rakes are very different.
Limping on button with one limper with 22-44 is bad. This is not the kind of action we are looking for with small pairs. I’d want to see at least three limps to consider limping along with those hands. Tight-passive is the worst lineup configuration for small pairs. To be clear, even if the game is good, if one person limps in front of you, you should still be folding the smallest pairs.
I think DC misread your post and thought you were suggesting raising 100% of hands, rather than saying you'd be raising the types of hands described by killians "100%." FWIW I think 76s is close in a high-rake environment and 65s would be a fold. Also agree with folding 44-22.
Even with good chance getting HU ?
Or is the blinds too loose in the situation described previously?
I think we rarely have a chance of getting HU vs limper in a 4/8 game. I can’t remember what was said about the blinds but I generally assume avg player at that level is overdefending.
I think we rarely have a chance of getting HU vs limper in a 4/8 game. I can’t remember what was said about the blinds but I generally assume avg player at that level is overdefending.
In my example the blinds were tight(rare in 4/8 game for sure) and I raised with the 44 to get HU. The V was unknown so probably not the best play. Against a known weak player, a maybe?
