I play in a 3-6 Limit game at Boulder Station in Las Vegas. Most of the day the game is very loose passive pre-flop. In the morning/early afternoon pre-flop is EXTREMELY loose passive.

The morning/early afternoon crowd is usually retirees and I have a very large observational sample on them because I play against the same people a lot.

Also, there is a $500 dollar quad flopper bonus so I believe many of these players don't want to open raise any PP because they want to get to a flop to win the bonus. There are also bonus' for the steel wheel, Royals and Straight Flushes, so people want to make sure they get to a flop/turn/river with these hands.

When one of these older loose passives opens, I am estimating there range is maybe 50% AA, some KK and honestly not much more than that unless they only have a couple chips left and are going almost all in or all in.

Assuming I am not making a mental/strategy error by not playing a standard "GTO" range IP vs. one of these people open, what the hell can I play? Can I still possibly play a 3-bet or fold range, should I make cold calls because people will call behind usually....They are so damn tight with their opens.
If one of these people opens and there are multiple callers before it gets to me when I'm IP, what can I play?

*It's obvious but i forgot to mention, tons of limping, Hardly any open raising at all from this crowd.

3 handed half kill.

Villain one: LAG fish always straddle button if remembered. Stuck $5000.

Villain two: LAGTAG pro mix game specialist former online HUHU pro. Stuck $2000.

Being direct right of LAG fish, 3 bet from SB 72.5% pf OR call bottom range (32s, 42s, 53o, 54o, T7o, 95o, 85o)?

HERO stuck $1000. Viewed as TAG SD bound fish by villains if didn't fold PF.

OT: Ninefingershuffle won $10k then left around 1am.

Current players on hour 24 approximately moderate amount of beers, magic ganja brownies, and cigarettes.

3bet 72.5% seems way too high for sb. It’s the nut worst position to play from 3handed against two relatively loose players. And I’m not saying this as someone with no experience playing 3handed. I usually go for 20-25% 3bet 3handed out of sb. 70-80% out of bb to a single raise and raise 45-60% on button.

With no raise to you, I like a mixed strategy of raising and limping out of sb, with a more merged range. I would switch to a raise everything strategy if they ever show a propensity to fold bb. Against a button straddle I would go closer to 30%, but we still have two hands to worry about and the worst relative position so I don’t like north of 40%.

My goal out of the sb is to basically hammer my range advantage to make up for all the folding I will do in this situation. They won’t be able to continue often enough on boards that favor my range where I might have absolute air or a monster. Trying to win every pot out of the sb against loose tricky players is a disaster because we allow them to play perfectly against us with their loose styles in position.

If they are truly only playing AA or KK, you should not play a 3bet or fold strat. You should only ever 3bet with aces. You should absolutely cc after two callers with good multiway hands just because it’s more fun that way and it’s probably a winning position.

I would say though that this game might be unbeatable due to passive play and low stakes generally being a rake trap.

Loose HJ who limps a lot and cold calls a lot but also has a reasonable open raising opens. Tighter side of TAG 3 bets...Usually big pairs/Big Ace high. Very loose and somewhat agro button just calls. It's folded to me in the BB. The HJ is only capping his huge hands. The HJ and button are both pretty sticky post flop.

How low are you calling here with suited connectors?

5h6h?
6h7h?
7h8h?

Keep going?

LOL that game looks super sad. Like, even the players look sad. A+++ photo if it was intentionally taken for max sadness. Awesome details, like crossed arms lady with like $12 left.

I think 54s is close. I would not go lower.

I call them all

+1

Reminded me of this epic thread.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...d-4-a-1753073/

OT:
I'll probably get drunk enough to 4 bet vs Ninefingershuffle all 3 hands if I'm running great

I’m punching my ticket with any of those hands. Folding 4 high though, pot not big enough.

TAG/Fish open limps UTG, folded to very agro LAG/TAG in HJ who raises, I am next in the CO with As9c. The players to the left are all tightish. I've seen the HJ 3b with 97s from the CO to HJ just to give some reference. I've seen him raise multiple limpers with 9To. He plays very well post flop and is very showdown bound. He CR's a lot on the flop with draws and any pair on low boards. If he just calls he has a A.K. or Q high or a weak peel. He seems to be unbalanced with his flop play. The UTG will donk top pair or better.

I would 3b HJ for sure if it was HU. I don't think the UTG will fold for two. Do you 3 bet this?

I would say fold but I’d probably 3bet in game

Just fold

It's a fold even without the limper. Snap fold.

I think HU this is close given his wide opening range here. He is combative and tough to play against post flop. It probably is a fold. There are other laggy pre flop players who I like 3 betting with A9o because they are less combative post flop and less showdown bound.

I sometimes play too quickly and don't think through the scenario. I thought A9o looked pretty good against the HJ at the time of the raise but then I quickly regretted it.

I think ATo is a good 3 here.

A pretty solid TAG opens in the HJ. The game has been playing pretty tight.

I have 9cTc in the CO. The button is tight. Is this a 3 bet? Do you go much lower than this?

I 3 bet but depends on BTN & blinds.

Probably 87s+ for me based on how I'm running & perceived image during session.

+1

Pre flop maniac opens in the HJ, Good Lag/TAG 3 bets from the CO, folded to me in the SB. The BB is tight.

What do you do with these?

66
KQo
JTs
KTs
ATo

I would cap JTs and feel like a nit while folding the other 4 hands. I’m just not seeing the value in trying to iso against a maniac and a good player oop.

I'd 4 bet 66, KQo, JTs.

Think dream machine / Solver 4 bets all 4.

KTs & ATo seems like reverse implied odds issue which may not matter due to HJ maniac & LAGTAG CO having too wide of range.

OT: Would PM ninefingershuffle to check.

I don’t think solvers work for 3 handed

I'd PM DonJuan, Bicyclekick, and/or DeathDonkey for that info on which Solver does 3 handed. Anyone may now request fee for info on which Solver does 3 handed LHE although probably can find that via research online in 2+2 and/or Google.

1-2 -years ago think DonJuan told me via PM and/or in one of the threads. Forgot which Solver it was think Monker or PIO.

Ok but isn’t this technically 4handed due to bb? He probably should be defending his blind a lot vs two meaningless raises and a relatively loose cap out of sb.