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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Lets say a fishy player limps utg. If you raise, you’re almost certain to get called (but not usually raised) by two or more players behind you. Sometimes all of them. What range of hands would you be raising vs overlimping.
For instance, would you be raising KT offsuit/AT offsuit? Would you raise any suited ace? Would you raise suited connectors? I’m guessing pocket pairs play good as overlimps.
I'd start with a baseline of a UTG+1 range if the weak UTG player had folded, then shade it from there. I'm not playing ATo or KJo UTG+1 in a full ring game like this because:
- 6 or 7 opportunities behind me for someone to wake up with a dominating hand
- almost certainly OOP postflop
- very likely multiway where offsuit hands lose lots of value.
None of those factors is all that different because of the UTG limper. What is different?
The limper has a wide, probably capped range, say 40% minus top 5%, which creates dead money against our much stronger range. So I can see that you
might add a very few cusp offsuit hands; I'm guessing AJ and KQ are on the cusp. I'd consider raising them on the off chance we can get players behind to fold. I'd never overlimp them, and it seems marginal between raise and fold.
So using a similar approach I come up with:
- Would you raise any suited ace? -- Probably down to about A8s and limp the rest, but that might be very wrong, not sure. Depends a lot on how certain we are of cold calls behind and how loose the blinds are. If we can often get it down to 3 handed then raising them all makes more sense.
- SCs -- raise only the really good ones, maybe T9s+? Limp fairly loosely given the reads, down to maybe 65s. Maybe limp T8s.
- Pairs -- Definitely play all of them. Raise slightly looser than standard (both because of UTG and because players behind 3! tightly) -- maybe raise 77+?
- You didn't ask about suited bways. KTs might be a raise. QTs, eh, not sure. Certainly playing them all.
I hope LHE experts will correct my reasoning above.