I've won plenty calling rivers with ace high, and have won occasionally calling with king high and on a handful of special occasions against special players calling with queen high.

I remember a while back calling with Queen high losing to King high.

8/16 T9s: depends on the players but mostly call. Spite cap if mp and hj are both super aggro because T9 wins way more than it's share of big pots.

20/40 AJcc. Call.

id probably call both without a read on anyone, unless ive been drinking in which case i cap.

dont cbet the flop if you cap unless you hit something with good equity.

Thanks for the feedback guys. I did call both.

Another one I was curious about.

67s utg+2 8 handed 8/16. Somewhat weak/tight table.

Start thinking in terms of how far from the button you are. It's clearer and easier for us both. You're 3off the button, in the lojack, regardless of game size. With that out of the way...

Really close but I think of the rake and fold.

Sorry, it was a typo. Meant to write UTG+1

snap fold

Open BU A4o. sb3 bb4

Fold

So folding the weaker off suit opens here is cool? Continue A9o/KTo/Q9o?
How about some of the crummy suited stuff(64/69/J7)? Definitely don’t wanna get carried away folding here but seems like sometimes it’s okay to just say LOL jk. Possibly a spot where I might just take slightly the worst of it tho because I don’t wanna encourage people to go nuts against me.

Continue more with suited hands and ditch rio offsuit hands.

For instance, I input some very generous ranges for the blinds.

For sb I ranged as 55’s+, a2s+, ato+, k9s+, kto+, qts+, qjo, j9s+, t9s, 89s
For bb cap I ranged as 77’s+, ats+, ajo+, kqs, qjs, jts, t9s

If you would change these in any way please let me know.

So for a hand like q9o we get 21.5% equity, which is just over the required 20% equity needed. (calling 1 BB to win 5 BB). However, consider the concept of equity realization. The offsuit hands will generally capture less equity because they are inherently more difficult to play and you will have more difficult decisions post flop, weaker draws, and no initiative. Then factor in that 6-7 dollars will be removed from rake and it’s obvious how marginal this spot is. If it is profitable, it is by a very narrow margin.

However, a hand like q9s has 25.5% equity against this range and we have a very clear continue. Notice even a hand as “weak” as 64s has 24.5% equity, and we can justify a heuristic of continuing with almost all suited hands you would raise from the button, and ditch the unsuited gappers and aces. (a9o has 21.8% equity against this range and TERRIBLE playability post-flop).

Nice post. Thanks. This is just a hypothetical “kitchen counter” hand. But i thought it was worth posting because the spot doesn’t get discussed much. I plan to be playing some decent volume in mid stakes mostly time-raked games soon so trying to make sure im not doing anything to wack.

Actually wouldn’t hot/cold break even at 16.66% getting 5-1?

i'm not folding once i've raised in a 4 bet cap

which is wrong. found some spots. whoops

1) I'm raising. Knock out the blinds. Create a little dead money. Have position and the initiative.

2) Kinda close. If the HJ was less of a nit, easy call. But if we flop an Ace, are we happy? If CO folds, it's an easy muck.

Also just realized I'm replying to a 5-year old OP. lol

How often does this come up?

There are still zero spots where you voluntarily put in money pre and fold for a 3 bet while closing the action, correct?

not common

no spots

BTN raises
SB 3 bets

BB should
cap/4bet XX
call with YY

XX = Cap / 4 bet range = A3s+ KTs+, KQs+, KQo+, 77+ ?

YY = 3 cold range = 33 - 66, 78s+, J9s+ ?

NOTE: Souce of discussion from

200/400 Recap: Hand #4 - Medium Stakes Poker Forum - Medium Stakes Limit Holdem
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...d-4-a-1753073/

if you're going to use a mixed strategy, it's best not to make your range so obvious by capping your best hands and calling the worst hands. if i know that when you call, the best pair you can have is 66 and you can never have the nuts on certain boards, that's pretty exploitable.

it makes sense to put a little bit of everything in both ranges to keep yourself from being exploited. you can break it down combonatorically by hand. an example would be to put 2 combos of AA in your call range and 4 combos in your capping range.

AA call
AA call

AA 4bet
AA 4bet
AA 4bet
AA 4bet

A8o-3b or fold at roughly 50/50 freq
A7s- call
K9s- call or 3b at 15% freq
KJo- call
9Ts-call 3 combos, 3 bet 1 combo @ 50/50 freq

correct Only vary when using very specific exploits

Here’s a funny one to revive the thread.

9 handed game. Everyone limps to a post in the cutoff who checks. We have 63s on the button. Call or nah? What is your limping range in a family pot scenario on the button?

This is 20/40 if it makes a difference.