Raising JTs here would be ok. Even if it’s 5 ways you can see a feee turn sometimes.

You would prefer being in a 4 handed pot?

It may be close, but there's nothing wild about 3 betting here.

Wow. If you guys don’t KNOW that JT suited is a raise in that spot that is pretty amazing.

It would be a raise no matter how many limpers there were.

Did anyone say not to raise there?

No

So what is your point.

My point is it’s not “okay” - it is mandatory. And there is nothing to “think” about.

The language used makes it seem like you both think It’s somewhat close. It’s not.

I don't consider 7-7 to be all that in the SB for a raise, much less for a 3-bet. I'd rather have the BB come along and hope to hit the set or straight draw.

How do you play 99's here?

I 3-bet 9-9 SB yesterday in this same spot. It may seem nitty to others but when we 3-bet pf out of the SB, and not even closing the action at that, we are almost - not necessarily, but almost - committed to betting the flop which will be unfavorable much of the time for the smaller pairs. Kind of funny that you should ask bec 9-9 is my cut-off pair in this situation.

3 bet 77 100% of the time in SB based on action.

I never or rarely cold call in SB especially (BB being exception).

You could fold but not based on no descriptions of villains. Vs randoms I would still 3 bet 77 every time from CO raise BTN cold call with HERO in SB.

Fold all 22-66 vs random CO raise BTN cold call with HERO in SB no read on BB, CO, or BTN.

I rarely cold call in SB though.

Literally one of biggest leaks some of the TAG fish cakes have in 20/40 half kill game I play in around Hanmond Horseshoe is they burn big bet cold calling open raises or cold calling in blinds.

SB and BB if you ran it on PokerTracker in past, players lose most money for a reason. Only exception when you can be more carefree is if you play postflop exceptionally well like DonJuan, OnTheRail, BicycleKick, Schneids, Unguarded, DeathDonkey, etc but I doubt I ever will reach that level so elect to play too tight possibly in SB by rarely cold calling.

It is ok to raise there

I can see 99's being the bottom of 3 bet range in lower limit games. Players tend to have a more flat raising range( CO range is basically the same as UTG range) or their range just consists of high cards and mid pairs....and the cold caller often has strong hands that he should be reraising with. In my 20/40 game, The CO could have a much wider range. The cold caller is more likely to 3 bet his better hands, but will call with all kinds of crap. I feel I can take down significantly more hands UIP than just calling. I don't feel obligated to keep betting if the board doesn't come well for me. I have good equity as well.

If it were simply a matter of equity - if everyone just put in X$ and ran out the board - it's something else entirely. But you know what I'm saying: The small pairs are tough to play OOP unless they hit the flop hard so I just call w/ them.

Small pairs are like 66 and less, yeah?

99-77 play fine postflop OOP. You should have a pretty good idea what board textures are favorable for you or not.

I'm not so set in my ways that I feel the need to go into it very much and if someone wants to 3-bet 8-8 and 7-7 then ok. I've simply come to the conclusion that anything less than 9-9 in this very particular situation is my minimum 3-bet range.

It's folded to TAG who posts in CO. He is raising 100%. Folded to SB who is calling about 75%..I think he is the type who is only 3 betting KKs+. He is very sticky post. He just calls. The CO knows how sticky the SB is so he is checking back the flop when he has nothing.

How wide are you defending?

I don’t think the co posting and raising blind is the factor anymore. The sb has a pretty strong range

I’m reverting back to its as if the CO opened and defending the same range I would there.

How does he have a strong range? It was posted that he calls with 75% of his hands, and that doesn't include AA or KK.

I have to have absolute trash not to call.

Missed that lol

I’m only folding those j2o type hands. Prob calling 75%+

A tight reg opens in HJ. He seems pretty straight forward and doesn't seem to be combative. I don't have a great read of what his range is, but here's my best guess..KJo+, 66+, A9s+ ATo+ QJs+ KJs+.

I'm wondering if I'm defending too wide or perhaps too tight. On one hand he has a tighter than normal range. On the other hand he is straight forward and non combative. I don't think he is gonna make me pay if I'm behind. I don't think he is the type to be barrelling off much. He checks the turn a decent amount. He usually c bets flop.

I'm in the BB. Hands like J9o, A8o, 89o have about 32% equity. I know in Stox book he talks about needing about 35% equity. Is this still the rule of thumb number? Or do you throw the numbers out and play the player. Maybe based on the read you can defend more widely than this.

If you use 35% as the baseline value, then you should be defending more against players that are more straightforward/passive postflop because you can play better against them. That doesn't mean to "throw out" the number, just adjust it.

Let's say you take it down to 30% equity. How many extra hands are you adding? How does that make you feel? If it feels too loose, bring it back to 32-33%.

Alternatively, think about your defending range when it's at 35% equity and decide how many extra hands you want to play. An extra 10%? 20%? Once you know that, just add in the next X hands you need to get to that point.

Hot and cold equity is valuable number to have. Doesn't take into account fold equity or exploitation by HERO vs villain though.

I personally adjust accordingly lower or tighter than 35%. If 35% is my base hot and cold equity. Specifically based on reads and any hand history by villain that I would think could cause villain in HJ to play according to how I would want them to play postflop.

Whether it be to exploit their tendencies or exploit their tilt.

I defend BB quite wide and I imagine it is wider than 35% equity.

Temporarily 5 handed.

Tight Tag reg opens in CO....He's non combative post and plays pretty straightforwardly. He's opening about top 18%

Laggy pre but good post flop Button 3 bets....He plays agro HU post flop, but plays carefully MW. He is. 3 betting about top 25%

I have a tight image at the moment. My implied odds post flop are not good. I probably have decent bluff equity.

Folded to me in the BB. What should I do with these hands? 44's, A8s, KTs, AsTo

Think you can call with all 4. Only one I would consider folding is ATo based on bad Reverse Implied Odds.

Even then, ATo seems too strong vs LAG BTN even if current read is careful/tight multiday. Those guys tend to switch gears to 3 bet too loose.

Option also depends if you have a 4 bet range here. 2+2 motto is to not have 4 bet range.

With how I play, I widen 4 bet range if BTN is being really LAG pre with 3 bets.

With that said, I generally call close to 100% 3 ways 9f hands I'm not folding as well absent reason to 4 bet.

Think DonJuan's suggestion was to trip bottom X% of capping range so the 4 bet range is mixed at an appropriate range. That was via 4 way pot though I think.