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Originally Posted by chillrob
Having a nitty image is good in limit holdem, it can allow you to steal entire pots.
So you're going to take a guy who naturally calls to much, then use your image to tighten him up a bit? You realize the first few notches he tightens up actually make him play
better, right? Then you tighten him up some more, and now he's playing exactly as much too tight as he was too lose before. Then, you work that image even more and get him to make larger folding mistakes. That's a plan. If you don't get all the way there, you accidentally make him an expert who folds just the right amount.
Sure, bad folds can cost pots and bad calls only cost bets. That's only if you ignore that it is usually fractions either way.
Having a nitty image in LHE is terrible. It makes people play more correctly against you, in particular. Against everyone else, they play too many hands and spew value. Since they're likely incapable of folding too much, you're not going to get them to play unprofitably nitty against you. Then you add in the fact that you've passed up a ton of value to gain this image.
Contrast this with the 0EV spew (or even slightly +EV spew) that ILP, Bob, and jdr0317 are talking about. In that case, you're not actually losing (and may be making) money in a multiway pot. You still get to be an expert and push edges. You're playing more pots with bad players. And, you're reinforcing their natural tendencies, so they're actually playing worse against you.
Of course, it could be that half the villains in your 10/20 or 15/30 game are unaware of your image. The two images they care about are the drink server and the sports on the TV. Makes me think some (Mike Caro?) talking about how "my advertising budget is $0". Again playing nitty tight to make people respect you is expensive, imo. Jamming close EV spots is either free or slightly profitable.
NL is a much better game if you want to force people to make folds. Even in NL, the fun players call too much and you have to be aware of your own tendencies to try to win pots.