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Old 01-02-2017, 09:44 AM   #1
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Overcard peel

8/16. 9 handed.

5 players limp, I raise AcKh in BB and all call.

Qs9sQd..I check, UTG(new to table) bets, next player calls, HJ calls(loose passive) Button calls (loose passive) SB (lag) calls

Do you peel here? We are getting great price and ending the betting but this board isn't great obviously.
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Old 01-02-2017, 09:47 AM   #2
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Re: Overcard peel

Fold. Q is def out there and we have no spade.
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:49 AM   #3
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Re: Overcard peel

You're closing the action getting 15:1. Your odds to hit a pair is 7:1 so getting nearly double that (accounting for rake), should give enough of a parlay to continue, even though keeping in mind that board is paired and you have limited back door draws. I'd call the flop and see what happens ott.
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:39 PM   #4
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Re: Overcard peel

Even if no one has a Q here, it looks like someone definitely has a flush draw, and someone else probably has JT, which would leave you with two outs on the turn, vulnerable to many rivers. Easy dump.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:19 PM   #5
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Re: Overcard peel

What are our chances of winning? What price are we getting to call this bet, closing the action?
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:08 PM   #6
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Re: Overcard peel

I call without considering a fold
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Old 01-06-2017, 09:54 PM   #7
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Re: Overcard peel

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Even if no one has a Q here, it looks like someone definitely has a flush draw, and someone else probably has JT, which would leave you with two outs on the turn, vulnerable to many rivers. Easy dump.
nailed it. you'd be better off chasing a small pocket pair like 33 here. Better chance of winning the pot.
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:52 AM   #8
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Re: Overcard peel

For those who say this is a flop call will you explain why please?
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:44 PM   #9
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Re: Overcard peel

They're planning on hitting the Powerball to fund their retirement?
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Old 11-09-2018, 01:06 AM   #10
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Re: Overcard peel

I'm okay with a peel, but it's one of those "closing the action in a big pot" peels. I think it's way too pessimistic to believe that someone absolutely must have a queen, and even more so to think that there is also a flush draw and exactly JT out there giving you only two outs.

Don't go nuts if you hit your pair, and don't feel that you have to see the showdown at any price if you do. But if you hit a pair on the turn and paid no more than one bet on the turn and river to see the showdown, you're probably doing okay.
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Old 11-09-2018, 11:00 AM   #11
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Re: Overcard peel

After check-call the hand is pretty much face up. What defends AK? KJs... J10s? 10-10?
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:16 PM   #12
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Re: Overcard peel

I think I'm in the fold camp.
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Old 11-10-2018, 01:47 AM   #13
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After check-call the hand is pretty much face up. What defends AK? KJs... J10s? 10-10?
actually i think the perceived range is AK only.
Even zero level players "understand" some plays. Because they do the same.
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:01 PM   #14
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actually i think the perceived range is AK only.
Even zero level players "understand" some plays. Because they do the same.
If an ace falls on the turn and it gets checked through, then you bet the river, you should still expect to be called by worse hands even though they "know" what you have.
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