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Originally Posted by mcclain
Sorry about this; I think I posted my question in the wrong place. That's what I get for playing until 2:00am and then posting frustrations on the web.
Quick response - the monte carlo jackpots range anywhere from $100 to about $400 for quads and straight flushes, and then $1000+ for royal flushes. The bad beat is usually somewhere between $30k - $40k. I normally play at The Caribbean in Kirkland, WA.
I've played a fair bit at the Monte Carlo in Las Vegas, and their room features a high-hand jackpot like the one you describe. I think you know that the gripes you have are foolish, right?
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Is it just me or is this inviting bad play? I'm more than happy to take the pot preflop with a pocket pair or whatever I raised with, and move on to the next hand.
In a loose, low limit game you are not happy to just take the pot. You'd prefer that the world calls when you raise. Stealing pots is for different games, if your games are so tight/passive that you are constantly stealing the blinds, you are in a horrible game.
Also, how can you complain about a casino promotion that encourages bad play? You like money, right?
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Tonight I was criticized several times for raising preflop by another player who wanted everyone to play like she does (she announced that she only raises preflop with pocket Aces). Unfortunately a couple of other players agreed with her saying that I'm probably missing out on Monte Carlo jackpots.
It's not that I care what other players think about my play - I raise preflop for the right reasons. I suppose I'm just sick of the Monte Carlo board. I'm sick of the way it changes play. I think I'm going to ignore it from now on; if something hits for me I'll be happy but I'll be equally happy to take down a pot without any callers if I raise preflop.
I know this is frustration, but again, you want your opponents to play badly. FWIW, I think this promotion is the best kind that you can have. The jackpots are generally small, so that means that there aren't hundreds of thousands of dollars taken from the tables (like with a qauds over quads BBJ). When they win, people get the money at the table to gamble with. It encourages people to play loosely with bad hands, say 64s because those SF have a huge jackpot.
Getting lectured by a bad player should be a good thing for you. This will never stop, no matter what limits you eventually play. Many people work on funny responses or just ignore the comments. A friendly game is a good one; be sure that you don't tap on the glass here.
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I have to wonder whether those people would cold call 3 bets preflop with something like King Ten suited just because it might turn into a royal? I actually see people call 4 bets (capped) with Ace-X suited when there's a possibility of a straight flush with something like Ace-deuce suited or even Ace-five suited.
Given that you (wrongly) seem to be hoping people will fold when you raise, this probably doesn't seem great to you. If a guy will cold call KTs after I 3!, you should consider taking him to dinner later. Pay with his money.
May you never have to play in a game where people will respect your raises. You'll look at the game you describe here, fondly.