Play winning poker not winning stats, in any case what I see ..

3Bet PF far to low, 7.44 in sb should be 13 or 14% maybe more, Button 6.99 should be more toward the 13% or higher., CO at 3.79 should be higher.
Are you cold calling, calling two after a RFI. These should be 3bets not calls. Would like to see the cold call stat, anything more than 1% is a leak. Could be big multiway pots but big hands and suited connectors can be 3bet for profit.

Winning for 2BB/100 is fine and you will do well if you can match it higher.

That's poker .. you hope to break even for the big run up. Win 200 or 300 BB, you will find when you move up the games are tougher and more aggressive, this will swing you down and the bad part a higher down 100BB requires another 200BB win at the lower stake to move back up. However, has you move up and down you will close leaks and improve in many subtle ways and then some day your moving up again to an even higher stake and the lowest stake is never seen again.

Some time you will just run bad and plunge 300BB or even 500BB, it can happen and most likely will at some point. Then you keep moving down to save your roll, and start rebuilding. Try to get used to the swings and not let it effect your poker always study and review and improve no matter where you are with your roll.

I moved your post to its correct destination, the stats thread. I'm less concerned about your BB defense and more concerned that you're limping in all positions. As others have mentioned, your WR is good. Look at the stats in this thread from people getting positive comments, and keep it up.

Raising CO and BTN to rd happy blinds is going to be good. Up each at least 5%

I disagree on cbet. I think it's a decent amount too high.

Isn't playing 17/12.5 UTG an easy problem to fix? Like all of his opening stats are a good hand chart away from being way better. Or am I reading those stats wrong?

Definitely. I had kind of overlooked that, because I just looked at aggregate number that seemed fine. Get a good hand chart and life is good.

What if those stats were simply the product of bad seat selection?

Personally, I wouldn't learn to play 6m with open limping as part of my game. Later, hit 10/20 and be expert enough to know when, sure. The UTG stats have to be a leak. In other seats, maybe the tables makes stats look non optimal. More likely, he gets a hand chart and the look like a normal 29/23 or whatever the kids are playing. 33/28? I wouldn't chase stats, but in a 20k sample the evidence says a good chart could help. Also as a tight defender, the gap should be narrow - standard bb defense is the source of our gap in pfr.

I think at .10/.20 there shouldn't be a bad enough seat selection to explain some of the stats over a 20k hand sample.

The limping stats are.. mind boggling. its not even possible, at least for UTG and UTG+1. And I can't even remember the last time I cold called. I do limp on a regular basis but only suited connectors or offsuit connectors like JT, T9, and only with 2 limps in front, or 1 limp in front and no aggros behind me. UTG/UTG+1 limps just don't happen though. I tried experimenting with the limp/reraise AA-KK thing for a while, but it backfired enough that i abandoned that little gem until higher stakes, and the deception/balancing value is nil against zombies.

It is possible that a lot of these bad stats were from my first ~5000 hands. Keep in mind these 20K hands include my Day 1 first ever FLHE game. As for charts, i've been following Stoxtrader OR charts very closely for the past 15K hands. 3 betting and check raising strategy has only been part of my game for the past 10K, and not even frequently until the last 5K hands.

edit: I'm considering dumping the stoxtrader 3bet charts as hes basing them off of hole cards with 50% equity minimum vs opponents range according to steal rate, and from what i've been reading/watching, 45% equity is a much better number to go off of, and 5% is not a small number in that respect.

All good, then. You might filter for ep limps and for a quick self review. You also could repost you last 10k stats here. Your WR is fine, so you are unlikely too far to the Dark Side.

Why not. So some of these stats in last 10k are.... unexpected?



here is my entire calling history for UTG/UTG+1 in the past 10K hands. there are only 20 trials.

I do remember doing this. I think I've only tried pulling off this maneuver in games where pretty much everybody has VPIP 40+, PFR < 5 and steal < 10. Maybe more liberal with the pairs.

I don't think I was planning on FBB 56, but I'm quite happy with the FSB , I was trying to hit a target of 78-80 and ended up overshooting a bit. keep in mind, blind structure is .02 and .05

3 bet obviously still doesn't look 'optimal' but I'm quite convinced this is a product of low player pfr's. In a few level-ups I expect this to work itself out naturally.

As you move up, you should naturally stop open limping due to conditions. I expect you'll steal and defend more. Move up and see how it goes. FWIW, I don't think you can really limp small pp hands in ep for profit in a 6m game, but maybe I'm just wrong.

I would guess you could if you do it with a balanced range, but that would take thinking opponents. If you limped say JJ/22-66/T9s and 98s then it might be good, but that's also seeming a bit annoying.

I've never really played for significant stakes with anyone I considered decent who open limped often enough for me to notice. What you're suggesting could work, but you can't hit high flops and there are tons of boards where you can't have the nuts. As an adjustment to an amazing game, sure. I think we're on the same page.

Bumping up to .10-.25 on Bovada for the first time today. Going to try playing without the HUD crutch, and see if i can make past .25-.50 without it. If i'm doing well enough to get that far I'll probably invest in Hold'em Indicator, but playing hudless is a skillset I really need to develop in the meantime.

Hi,

Currently playing a lot of .10/.20 6-Max and would really appreciate some feedback on these stats. Nervously dipping my toes in the .25/.50 6-Max arena..

Sorry, the image link I posted no longer works. My stats are here

Maybe someone else will see something. 2.5BB/100 and decent stats. Enjoy the next level. You used to see stats like this a 3/6 & 5/10.

People get way to hung up on this. Yes, playing without a HUD is cool and all, but having ti on really doesn't hurt much. Learning how to ue it as just another tool in your arsenal is much more important than learning how to ignore it or play without it. I say keep the HUD on if you already have it and just learn to not use it as a crutch. it's free information that you should never reject.

cbet flop less, but other than that looks good. i think you could tighten up from SB some, because of the way rake works and everything else. I know of one really good poster where who suggests something around 45% stl from sb. It's a personal preference thing, but something to keep in mind.

Thanks for the feedback.

You've mentioned this on the last two group of stats posted. Plz explain what cbet flop stat you think is on target and why?

I agree for NLHE these stats are too high, but most of the consistent winners in my database are higher than the 1st poster and close to the second poster's cbet flop stats.

Post BF .05/.10c 3-6 handed.

I'm not advocating that others play this way, but if you want to, it's important to know why the stats are the way the are (ibf rungood). From what I remember (it's been a while since I sat at .05 cent game), regs did not play very well out of the blinds, and were generally very predictable (robotic play). Fish were well...fish. My ideal arrangement for that stake was some predictable TAG or two that sits in the blinds when I'm on the BTN and fish anywhere/everywhere else.

IMO, even if one is winning with decent stats or not-so-decent play (be it open limping, c-betting or not c-betting enough, playing too loose/tight, etc), I think there's a lot to be had as a player by practicing decent seat selection and opening up pre-flop (for right reasons, not to meet some stat metric) a bit in the micros as a learning experience. Opening up pre-flop sets up your play post-flop (this is your captain obvious speaking).

a) Tune your situational awareness and as a result, get/play better.
and
b) it's cheaper to make mistakes at micro level before deciding to experiment as you move up
and possibly
c) get reactions out of your opponents - you see how they react and can form a very good image of how they'll behave in future hands. They become more predictable (see point a).

I know it's only ~10k hands but I felt/feel there's a lot of room to punish fish/regs alike at the microest of micros. Some of those regs from .05 cent played up to .50/1 IIRC and took their flaws with them.

Range question on 3bet.

From Each Position what should be an optimal 3bet range against a new player.

Here's my guess
SB: 14%
Button: 15%
CO: 13%
HJ: 10%

I'm thinking I'm a bit too tight here.