Stop tying them around your neck... Just an idea, man.

Or... Get Martina to agree that you're hung like an elephant.

Is this one of those hands where you are the villain?

I like the touching ending. Creepy people need love too.

Ha! I just realized that my post looks like a hidden brag post, but it's not. I had to explain to Heisen my paradoxical behavior. Also, the better conclusion to draw from my post is that condoms are poorly designed, not that I'm extra blessed by the carnal gods.

if ilp was hung that well, he probably wouldn't be banging 5'1" 100 pound asian girls.


waph: first rule of fight club...

i like how this thread has been around for maybe 2 weeks, and it already has half as many posts as the stars regular thread.

ap regs > all other regs


also, stars is like all german tags anyway, what fun are they?

Like a party where you get to beat a pinata full of red and green chips

since some of you might not know of this band, i feel it's my duty to introduce you to them.

on the docket today
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Muse
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CD: Black Holes and Revelations
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Starlight-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-c94VVU7zc

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Assassins -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH8ZVSjrKGA

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Map Of The Problematique -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtmV5qiNRvY

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Supermassive Black Hole -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiU_WfmoFV8

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Knights of Cydonia-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YygyHCRrKho

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I know Knights of Cydonia....but only from Guitar Hero

Yeah this band is awesome, I like also "exopolitics" from the same album and the old "thoughts of dying atheist"

The question I have, is what if anything can be done to turn things around on AP? What ideas are out there? Lets assume for one second that AP cared about there business and would listen. What is it that we would suggest?

I think lowering the rake would make a pretty good start

Agree it would help in the long run... But most casual players have no clue what the rake does. IMO

Honestly, I think we are well past repairable damage.

Someone mentioned BBJ being unbeatable up through 2/4

Not only is this true but id be willing to bet that 3/6 and 5/10 are also unbeatable on 90 percent of the tables.

Martina....I am well aware Im the one getting the deal....hence my brag

In the past I never really cared that the BBJ was unbeatable at the lower limits but I actually think this is a much bigger problem than I anticipated. Since I don't play those limits it didnt affect me... WRONG.. If those people have 0% chance of beating the games then they also have 0% chance of moving up to bigger stakes. So it stops the growth at the start.

depends on how much they lowered it and how handled it pr wise. I agree that most casual players dont have a clue what the rake does but they could have the information presented in a way that would work.

or do the opposite. Keep the rake the same but run an over-the-top shiney, promo that equates to a 30% rake cut. Treat it as as the site giving the casual free money instead of just raping them a little less and a little more gently

Agree thats why ARPS >>>>>> FAME

ding ding ding

That applies only to members of fight club, sir. I'm merely an observer who happens to know quite a bit about the club because of members who didn't observe the first two rules...

Before you can suggest anything, you have to get into their heads and put yourself in their situation...

Start with this postulate: They want one thing...money.

Q. Where do they get their money?
A. The rake.

Q. How do they get rake?
A. They take it from almost every pot.

Q. Where do pots come from?
A. Games have to run.

Q. How do games run?
A. People buy-in and play. The good players take money from the bad players. The bad players leave. The good players cash out.

And this is where it gets tricky...

Q. What if bad players stop coming?
A. The good players will play each other for a while until they realize that it's a complete and utter waste of their time. Then they leave and the site dies.

Q. So with little new money coming into the site, how does the site survive?
A. Increase the rake and create ancillary revenue streams (BBJP), reduce expenses (cut player benefits via FAME), then ultimately find ways to keep the money in play in order to convert as much as possible to rake.

And this is where it gets incriminating with conspiracy theories...

Q. How do you keep the money in play or otherwise slow the flow of money from bad players to good players?
A. Rig the games. Deal a lot of hands that reward -EV play (i.e. an unusually high frequency of 2, 3, and 4 outers on the river) therefore rewarding the fish. Help the short-stacked and all-ins get miracle boards. Do anything you can to slow the flow of money from bad players to good players.

Q. What if keeping money in play still doesn't generate enough rake revenue?
A. Take entire pots.

Q. How would the site take entire pots?
A. Deploy privileged "house accounts" (AKA SuperUsers) who have a big edge due to an unfair information advantage. Change the names of these players and mix it up to avoid detection as much as possible.

But of course our beloved AP would never stoop to such tactics for something as irrelevant as survival of the site, right?

So indeed the question is: What could one suggest to AP? I think they're too short-sighted to realize that almost anything that is good for the players is ultimately good for them. I fear they can only be "saved" by some external event that drives new players/money to the site (e.g. no more UIGEA, legalization, etc.), and I don't foresee such an event in the near future. It's far more likely that AP will run themselves into the ground and succumb to corruption from their desperation along the way.

(DoomSwitch Material)

Gemi is wise beyond his years


Oh wait...hes an old man ginger nm that

you put in to much work in that post for me to want to read it

I type faster than you click. I bet that post didn't take me 10 minutes.