MP: 59/27/Agg% 46. Makes stupid-light calls postflop, will raise weak made hands, some odd donks followed by folds. Erratic.

CO: Not many hands but seems very loose preflop. Weird hand where he limp-reraised KJo, bet QQ7, c/c 4 turn, donked 4 riv.

BTN: 57/1/24. Donk-bets made hands of various strength, such as top pair and MPNK.

BB: 24/4/30. Raises premium hands preflop, limps others like KJs, JTs.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.20 Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Preflop: Hero is SB with T 7
MP calls, CO calls, BTN calls, Hero completes, BB checks

Flop: (5 SB) 6 7 8 (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets, CO calls, BTN calls, Hero calls, BB calls

If I lead the flop, it has to be because I want to build the pot as this cast of characters isn't doing much folding. In retrospect that might have been a decent play. Anyone raise the flop when it comes back to me?

Turn: (5 BB) Q (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets, CO calls, BTN folds, Hero calls, BB folds

As played, have to c/c.

River: (8 BB) Q (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets, Hero?

The erratic player checks, the odd guy takes a stab. It seems unlikely MP has an 8 as he's aggressive and that river is a good card for an 8. Hard to know what range to put CO on. Reviewing this, it seems like a call.

I think I would x/c flop as well. Would not x/r on this flop (I'd prefer to do that with 98/97/96ss).

I would fold turn personally. Our 2P outs may not be good and we might even be drawing dead. Easy call had the Q been a spade.

Not too sure about river. I can see why you wanna call but is he really bluffing 9x when people rarely fold otr in limit? He can still have boats and straights or making a good VB with 8x.

Pretty standard shrug call for me. Seems weird that a guy who LRR KJ wouldn't raise an 8 on the flop, and I don't expect him to have a ton of Qx. Plus, we're fairly high up in our range, which makes me err on the side of calling more.

Check/call three times.

Even if you beat CO, MP still has to act behind you, and he has you beat (with the exception of 76).

It doesn’t make much sense for MP to check the river with a hand that beats me, particularly given the type of player he is.

Let's list out all the possible hands he would play this way and math it up.

I don't know him so I'm going to be bad at this.

T9 A8 K8s? Q8s? J8s? T8s 98 87 86s 85s? A7 J7s? T7s? 97s? 76 75s A6 96s? 65s 64s? 54s

I've omitted unpaired 9s and 5s because he would barrel (?) and included things like T9 going for a river check-raise (?)

That's ~70 combos that beat us and ~30 that we beat. We're getting 8:1 so if we beat CO about 1/2 the time and MP about 1/3, we're good to call here. But if we only beat CO 1/3 and MP 1/3, it's no good.

His line looks a lot like 9x. He should be betting 8s

It's 10c/20c. Unless something has drastically changed there's a pretty big gulf between "should" and "does."

These games are a lot more aggressive than they used to be. Still lots of bad play of course, but the super-passive fish is close to extinct.

If anything, the worst players still play the same garbage, they just raise and barrel off with it rather than call and fold when they miss with it.

I would c/r the flop if it was the BTN who had bet rather than MP so that I could charge the whole field 2 bets to chase whatever draws they have. As played I see no value in c/ring against these unpredictable opponents.

I think the turn is a fold. Even if you have the best hand there are a lot of cards you don't want to see on the river. If you don't have the best hand NONE of your outs are guaranteed to be full outs.

Are you sure you're not overvaluing the ONE crazy hand you saw the CO play? Just because he played it that way once doesn't mean he's playing it that way every time.